General Bob

Never thought I’d say this but thank goodness for marathon - just did d2 for weekly reset and again see enemy levels have been’tweaked’ just turned this crap off. Hopefully you guys can constrain yourselves to only game improvements in marathon or at very least be honest and communicate nerfs.

Solos and trios feel very different. Looking forward to trying Duos!

Enjoyed them all-mostly run solo and refreshing change to find legendary missions really well tuned and balanced - shame fireteam ops isn’t the same - the build that took me through the story is unplayable in solo fireteam but only last season I was able to solo most of them. I see even the timers have been significantly reduced again - why is FT ops not scalable based on number in FT? As a solo player content has again reduced to 7 portal missions and a couple of exotic ones if boobs are favourable

What’s your favorite story mission from Renegades? Looking for some player anecdotes to throw on a slide.

Ok unpopular I’m sure but D1 as console only meant a much better tuned experience - since then it feels like a constant battle between bungie and loadout spamming / crazy rotations with average players left behind. Add to this a live service game where power levels are now not even remotely reflective of actual difficulty as bungie constantly amp up enemy difficulty to offset power creep - most of the pinnacle and many of the standard ultimate fireteam missions have been massively tweaked up whilst power delta remains -30. Constant shifting goalposts I guess to try and offset the ‘broken’ builds but it’s become a joke

In your opinion, what did Destiny 1 do better than Destiny 2? Gathering info for a potential YT video, would love to hear people's thoughts! I'll start off - strike specific loot & overall vibe.

Loadout hot swap has damaged this game more than anything else - it drives encounter design that therefore MUST assume you are swapping to boss melt loadouts that wouldn’t get you through neutral gameplay- and therefore meaning we all have to as bosses are sponges for any general build. An issue only for dungeons and raids and no surprise most players don’t bother - you’d not need swapping if you’d not be able to previously - a really well crafted build would work for end to end and be far more inviting for newer players.

@EdenOfChaos @Mariomonkey123 Ive wanted them to do this so they can see how dogshit bland and boring it would be but at this point it's just over. Notswap is here to say and it's fucking embarrassing and cringe and we just have to deal with it

Anyone who thinks notswap offers interesting trade-offs probably likes watching paint dry. Playing pris titan on cuirass is so fucking boring why do you people hate fun it's so cringe.

Couldn’t agree more - standard mode def tuned down to help hopefully more players into dungeons and the feats to add challenge and reward - feels like bungie got this right and would be nice to see the portal tweaked to better follow this model, though at present portal also feels pretty good with very wide range in terms of challenge you can choose to play

The equilibrium dungeon is hitting the mark just right for me. Vespers and sundered are cool dont get me wrong but the encounters take FOREVER especially when running them for solo flawless. Its really nice to have a dungeon thats just simple and straightforward and quick.

@A_dmg04 @Destiny2Team @DestinyTheGame - all good but on solo quick play youve got your mod calcs wrong - at 550 I cannot get better than c+ which is in contradiction to your notes. Killed every add and cannot score beyond 10101 - and as no time bonus and no ability to inc difficulty cannot score a B.Don’t really care about loot impact but cannot complete orders as they need a b - are you aware and planning a fix?

Complete weekly challenges in the new Vanguard Alerts categories to earn gear, Chronologs, Bright Dust, experience, upgrade materials, and more. Available to all players in the Seasonal Hub and the Portal.

@A_dmg04 Well no flat tyre, no leaks and TV on the wall - and oddly and for first time in a while actually having fun playing D2 - who’d have thought it! How’s you?

How is everyone today

@Destiny2Team Great when are you targeting a fix on your newly released vanguard alerts which are impossible to progress as max out at C+ reward as no time bonus - had 2 runs sub 10 mins - so poor you are seeing this across almost every activity in the game - who is testing this?

After resolving a scoring issue with Update 9.5.0.1, the Derealize Master Conquest has now been re-enabled. We are still targeting a fix for the Conductor's Keep Master Conquest to go live on December 16 in Update 9.5.0.3.

@A_dmg04 @A_dmg04 - so bonus is a B or better in quick play however absolute speed ran 3 in a row and all getting a c+ and therefore no bonus - why ffs, how hard is this to test this?

Vanguard Alerts are Live. Talk to me. How we feeling?

I really enjoyed the play it how you want to the original portal boons and stakes worked - most player advocacy I’ve ever seen bungie give. This has now been removed under the guise of make it simpler. So we now have static -30 everywhere in the game, inc solo which was meant to be a quick few mins of filler fun, needing to select almost every single meg mod at max level in custom to ensure a decent drop and the ongoing saga of matchmaking been untuned as above but in since the initial change was made. All benefit gone, all player agency gone - took a working system and broke it. Why not just revert back to normal, legendary and master similar to renegades storyline missions.

@Destiny2Team @A_dmg04 huge issue arena ops vanguard alert. Shows predicted B score. Got regular C score on completion. There is no way to increase score. I'm locked out of the bonus focus and because it's impossible. Challenge is still progressing

Hey @A_dmg04 - feels like this is a topic no one at bungie is interested in engaging on - standard portal ad difficulty has increased noticeably in renegades - is this a bug or bungie trying to make the new content feel better to play? Would really appreciate a reply or acknowledgment - may not help if it’s a planned change but would be nice to know

@chivoshadow209 @A_dmg04 This is 15% of community at most - d3 should be console only and stop cross play now - steam is destroying this game. How many steam players is d1 ???? =0

Totality Division.

@LUCKYY10P I know you said you’d read all replies but any thoughts - as a well known CC and player do you see any disconnect between player base distribution and those developing and creating most of the content and narrative on the game? Seems odd to think that D1 which so many (including me) see as the benchmark for destiny was back then console only - has making the game playable on steam overtime played any part in its decline to it’s current state do you think? Side question which I think you’ve touched upon around DP raid - why is such high % of those who raid, esp contest mode pc players?

It’s odd - based on these numbers steam is only 15 to 20 % of players however almost entire game seems tuned for pc and content creators are almost entirely pc with mainly raid and pvp interests - feels like bungie now owned by a console maker are missing this so completely. I wonder how much play testing is done on ps5 and controller vs pc work m and k?

How are we feeling about Renegades so far? I’ll be reading all comments.

@A_dmg04 communication is a 2 way thing - are you intending to play back each day you ask for and get feedback a summary of what you guys are taking from it in terms of community sentiment or is this just a tickbox exercise? If I read the first 30 or so it’s 1-fix bugs please followed by 2-gaming tuning is off. As almost every player has a different view on what level of challenge is FUN to play do you have any intention to put this back into players hands as per original approach in EOF or just double down on selling buffs that content creators can create more content for whilst increasing the ad difficulty in the background to ‘protect’ the sanctity of the game

Train never stops. How we looking on Day 2?

So does too easy for you mean it’s no fun. For me and many I think it’s the opposite. That’s not to say an option to pick more end game challenges at times isn’t also fun. But most the time I play to chill after work with just enough challenge too make it interesting. We now have -30 fixed min on every activity in the game and stakes don’t let you trade off against this as you previously could which most of the make it harder players wanted. So we now have a polarised community where the game only please one or the other - too hard or too soft- just imagine if we’d kept the power delta stakes trade off - bungie could set to -40 and you could run at that with no stakes. I could apply stakes and run at -10 or anywhere in between. What am I missing?

Day 2 of Renegades is about to begin. So far I’ve been having a good time! Main complaint is how easy this Legendary campaign felt compared to the old ones, the mission were actually solid so it’s a shame it was far from the challenge of something like Witch Queen.

@A_dmg04 - why have the portal ad difficulty and some boss health pools been increased (not taking about the reported -30) but the actual ad difficulty? A few weeks back you talked about the fun of feeling the power fantasy in the game increasing and have detailed loads of weapon and ability buffs- but you’ve decided not to mention changes to combatant difficulty which mostly negates these?

How’s the Lawless Frontier feeling? Loops? Loot? Renegade Abilities? Holler.

The campaign looks and feels amazing - if I’m able to run only campaign style and tuning content for coming months then all good. However assuming will need to run portal activities as storyline content is limited - this current is zero fun to play. Spent last week playing loads of solo ultimate pinnacle missions which balanced challenge with power and had fun doing so - lots of perhaps small tuning tweaks but result is zero fun doing exactly same missions. Did anyone honestly play test these and reported back they had fun doing so? Perhaps it’s just me but the bau portal feels so much worse than 24hrs ago

How we feeling

New storyline content is good - tried running some portal stuff and tuning is horrible- why do bungie constantly play the narrative of making it more fun to play and play on the power fantasy element then to delivery an experience 100% opposite which is so apparent in content I was only playing yesterday quite happily

Soooooo how is renegades?

Must be said launch tuning is horrible. Was running fairly fun helio on ultimate solo last week and felt tough but fair. Barriers are now close to impossible with HC - switched to wishender and takes 2/3 hits to break shielding but doable - this was always a single shot weapon in the past. New storyline level seems good but all of the portal activities are close to unplayable. Who the hell is play testing these - esoteric?

Not to mention the barrier and unstop champions basically have nothing good to stun them in ultimate at this point. Also my exotic class item is not giving me new gear bonus

Arena Ops Matchmaking Is Impossible Right Now. Like I don't know who thought 6 players only needed 3 revive tokens but wow. This is why we can't have matchmaking in activities: Tokens