ImmutableXY

@NewChristiandom @Ihunanya_chi You are giving context as to why Jesus lied. This doesn't change the fact he lied. He said he wasn't going to festival. Then he went 'in secret'. He lied to his disciples. Just like he lied in those other two passages I linked.

@ImmutableXY @Ihunanya_chi Context: “Jesus’ brothers said to him, “Leave Galilee and go to Judea, so that your disciples there may see the works you do. No one who wants to become a public figure acts in secret. Since you are doing these things, show yourself to the world.” John 7:3-5

No one on this earth is naturally sinless, not a single person. We are all born with a sinful nature. That’s why even a young child, just two or three years old, can already lie; it shows that sin is part of human nature. This clearly reveals that Jesus was different. He is God in the flesh. God has no sin in Him, He is perfect. Jesus carried that divine nature because He is God manifested in human form. That is why, even though He was tempted, He never sinned. Even Pilate could find no fault in Him. Jesus is the only perfect man who has ever walked this earth. Every other person has sinned.

@yakoshixbyte Yes, I understand you and Paul like Jesus 👍 Would you mind answering my question? Watching a single person would be Hell. Let alone billions of people I loved. Could you watch that - like Jesus does - and do nothing?

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We are permanent in the eyes of God and we never will truly die once you understand how much Jesus loves you.

@GodlyAction Adorable claim. Any evidence?

Every knee will bow to Jesus alone.

@shane_pruitt78 He demands worship. Otherwise he'll have us burn burn burn forever. Like billions of people currently are.

God is not “the big man upstairs”. He is Holy God that deserves our worship.

@NewChristiandom @Ihunanya_chi 'I am not going to this festival, for my time has not yet fully come' Jesus said he's not going, because the world hates him. Lying to his disciples. Then he went 'in secret'. His brothers thought he wasn't going. It's a direct lie from Jesus. Along with the other two.

@ImmutableXY @Ihunanya_chi Jesus was responding to his disciples who wanted Him to go and preach and reveal Himself. He said this wasn’t the time and asked them to go. He did not lie. He was refusing their request to announce Himself at the festival. Context matters.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad Interesting how you've been unwilling to defend your beliefs at all. Despite making quite a few positive claims, as I have. I have backed mine up, or presented reasons for why (as in the previous message). You have not. Name a single MP Jesus fulfilled in the original context.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad Prove it.

The pope needs to read a Bible. The death penalty is 100 percent biblical.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad It is, by definition. Until you can demonstrate an objective (mind-independent) source.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad "That’s the default option" You made that up, you didn't prove it tho.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad Why does morality and rationality need to be 'grounded'? And saying 'God did it' is not 'grounding' them, either. That's hand waving. 'blind physical processes' Yes, neurons don't have eyes. But our actions in reality are not blind. Quite the opposite.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad Your worldview is self-defeating. It fails to ground both morality and rationality. If your thoughts are just byproducts of blind physical processes, then you have no non-circular reason to trust them including the ones you use to defend your position. Atheism is nonsense

@Ieiruu @sola_chad We both use our brains. Our brains produce thoughts. I understand you don't like subjective morality. You've already made that very clear. But that's the default option. Until you can demonstrate an objective source.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad chemical processes including the conclusion that anything is “wrong” at all.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad Yes, our moral sense is shaped by many factors: Evolution, culture, our own personal upbringing. This is why people disagree on moral issues. And why what is considered 'moral' has changed over time. You need to demonstrate an objective source. Which you cannot.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad So basically, rape is wrong in your worldview because evolution? That’s quite a story you’ve got. And morality is subjective anyway, then it’s not even grounded in anything objective it’s just preferences shaped by biology and social conditioning. Hence, i'm wasting my time.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad He didn't fulfill a single Messianic Prophecy from the OT. Hence why he was rejected by the Jews (i.e. those who knew the Old Testament). This is why the New Testament authors had to invent new contexts for prophecy. Or take passages completely out of context.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad False.

@sola_chad have other people survive, too. Because humans are a social species. A - primarily - cooperative species of ape. Our moral sense helped us to survive in the niche we evolved to occupy.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad I would encourage you to answer my many other messages and points, as well. There are at least a handful you have not responded to. I am indulging you here, and I would like the same courtesy. I value my own well being for Evolutionary reasons. I wish to survive, and... 1/

@NewChristiandom @Ihunanya_chi I have answered them all. Please refer to those messages.

@ImmutableXY @Ihunanya_chi Where did Jesus lie? Many people have asked you.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad I am a human. I value my well being. Surely we can agree that life is preferable to death (in most cases). Health is preferable to sickness. Etc. I want to live in a world where I and other humans have value, and can live meaningful lives.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad But why is it wrong to reduce human well being?

@Ieiruu @sola_chad Because it reduces human well being. Obviously for the victim, but I would say for the rapist, too. The cost of raping someone far outweighs the benefits. I don't want to be raped. Therefore I don't want to live in a world where people are raped, or rape is acceptable behaviour.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad But why is it wrong according to you?

@Ieiruu @sola_chad Would you mind conceding that our moral positions have changed over time? Then I'll get into Evolution, which you don't understand, And which I actually studied at University.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad Evolution doesn't account for morality and you know it.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad So our moral positions are the same as they were several thousand years ago? Nope. Woman have right now, and aren't viewed as property. We don't stone children to disobeying their parents. Slavery is generally considered to be ghastly. Much wider acceptance of LGBT. Etc. Etc.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad Nonsense. So you telling me we evolved from fishes, all about the survival of the fetus and now we suddendly started to care about other people and have morals. This is a good fairy tale what you got here.

@Ieiruu @sola_chad One could, I wouldn't. Anyone who sincerely argues rape is good should be locked up in my view. Disagree?

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad Interesting, then I guess you could argue that rape is good since morality is subjective right?

@Ieiruu @sola_chad Human morality has obviously changed and - I would say - improved over time. Our moral sense will continue to change. As will lion morality, or dolphin morality.

@ImmutableXY @sola_chad Alright but that's according to you tho