@brian2350739190 Brother, which non-boxing fans gives a rat's-ass about Usyk, especially in the US? Be real. This ain't the 90s.
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@KickVideos i’m not acting like inoue would get recognised outside japan and didn’t make that suggestion ever.
you haven’t changed my view that no one cares about kickboxing other than kickboxing fans. so many non-boxing fans can name plenty of fighters & fights they’ve seen. superior.
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boxing is supposedly inferior to kickboxing; a sport that has failed to produce a single fighter and/or fight that anyone can name
Mohammed Hijab@mohammed_hijab
It’s not that boxing is merely a “different” sport from kickboxing it’s that it’s an inferior, more limited one. If Rico Verhoeven had been allowed to kick, he would’ve finished Usyk in two rounds. As we saw, same cannot be said the other way around
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@KickVideos success? my entire point was about relevance.
us population is 342m, with 134.8m total tv households. if kickboxing cannot penetrate, but boxing can, then how can an argument be made that boxing is an inferior sport? that was the argument. scroll up.
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@brian2350739190 Yes, kickboxing is dead in the US, and Americans are god awful at kickboxing. If that's your measurement of success, sure, knock yourself out.
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@KickVideos i’m not even trying to discredit those numbers, inoue is a huge star in japan and does huge numbers at the box office, but the benchmark of a true star and marquee names is what they can generate in the US. always has been, always will be
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@brian2350739190 I think you're smarter than that, and are acting obtuse on purpose. Whole discussion is about there being interest, or a single name in kickboxing that people care about, which there clearly is. Don't act like Inoue can walk the streets of anywhere but Japan and get recognized.
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@KickVideos tokyo dome has a capacity of 55k
$25m gate = 454.54 average ticket price
comparing to ufc205, attendance of 20,427
$17.7m gate = 866.50 average ticket price
do you see what’s happening here? people pay to watch stars
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@brian2350739190 Let's take it to The MATCH 2022. Two of Japan's biggest kickboxing stars of the last decade faced off, sold out the Tokyo Dome, and shattered PPV records in Japan. Biggest combat sports event in Japan up until that point.
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Beyond Kickboxing@Beyond_Kick
'THE MATCH 2022' gate is announced as $25M. For comparison, the biggest gate in UFC history was Conor McGregor's fight with Eddie Alvarez at UFC 205, which brought in $17,7M in ticket sales. #THEMATCH2022
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@brian2350739190 That's Chingiz Allazov, the former pound-for-pound number one kickboxer in the world, just like Usyk was before getting spanked for large parts of his last fight.
Again, you not following the sport in the slightest doesn't mean there are no marquee stars.
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@brian2350739190 Your statement means nothing.
There are kickboxers with millions of fans, and fights with million of views, but you wouldn't know, because that's not your bubble. Obviously the sport is smaller than boxing, with no PPV culture, but your whole statement remains ridiculous.
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@KickVideos this means nothing
show me a breakdown of the average and peak viewership of that guy’s last 5 fights in domestic and international territories. thanks
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@DilbyDoe @KillDozer44 Briggs opponent, Tom Erickson, was a wrestler and lost every single kickboxing fight he had by knockout.
Francois Botha ended up 4-12 as a kickboxer, and did the best of all those high-profile crossovers.
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@KillDozer44 @KickVideos He was late 40’s here go watch Shannon Briggs he stopped a goofy kickboxer in 1 round lol
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Former boxing champion Ray "Merciless" Mercer against Remy Bonjasky at the K-1 World Grand Prix 2005 in Seoul.
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@AleeBabblez Tom Erickson was a wrestler and lost every single kickboxing fight he had by knockout.
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@bloooddmoneyyy @_Yodsanan That's not the knockout though, is it? Wouldn't even rank among Rico's three worst knockdowns.
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@TateTheTalisman @RicoVerhoeven @usykaa Easily continued? He was out on his feet stumbling towards his corner, I think the ref saved him from a beating, the fight was going 1 way after the knockdown
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I personally had @RicoVerhoeven and @usykaa dead even going into the 12th.
I don’t believe it was a justified stoppage and it was any man’s fight to win.
We were all robbed of one of the most exciting rounds in boxing history.
Rico could have easily continued.
Tristan Tate@TateTheTalisman
Huge huge respect to @RicoVerhoeven. 11 rounds with the best heavyweight boxer of our generation. He stepped into another man’s territory and made every kickboxing fan proud.
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@rickyv_83 This first knockdown was Rico's third fight of the day.
Those are the finals of the Glory Heavyweight Grand Prix.
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@KickVideos Notice it's in the 2nd Rd, not the 11th Rd when he was dead tired on top of being hurt.
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Biggest heart in combat sports.
Rico Verhoeven on the receiving end of horrendous knockdowns before turning the tide and winning.
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@Champain_papi24 He did against JBS and Badr. They clobbered him.
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@KickVideos None of these he didn't get up to get hit with 6 unanswered power shots while wobbling
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@Couldabeenrichh @26carlitoess Tenshin fought for the world title, and just beat Estrada to earn another world title shot. He's clearly at that level. And Yoshiki Takei, K-1 champion, did win a boxing world title recently.
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@26carlitoess crossover gimmick doesnt work in the lower weight classes unfortunately, look at Tenshin a kickboxing goat he got whooped on
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HW.
Try that shit at lower weight classes watch what happens.
Owen 🥋@owenswdMMA
The men who exposed ‘boxing’
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@ConanEdogooner @UsykFC No, 95% of top kickboxers stay in kickboxing, and have no interest competing elsewhere.
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Vitali Klitchsko a former kick boxer who transitioned to boxing was robbed outta a win vs Lennox Lewis
He became an all time great too
I guess boxing fans are to stupid to understand multiple kick boxers have transitioned to boxing and have had successful careers
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@esrmuaythai @LiamBadco I think they just like pitting countries against each other. Every week you see some poor Chinese souls get sacrificed against Japanese kickboxers instead of matching them up against each other.
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@LiamBadco I’ve always wondered that my self tbh, matchmakers must be scared to match the Russians up with each other lmao
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Predicted everything to a T 🤌🏼😮💨
Throughly enjoyed last nights event, we gotta keep this Thailand vs Russian theme going 😂
EsrMuayThai@esrmuaythai
Predictions wise I am very torn this week but if I had to give my top picks: Rungruanglek as my highest expectation of the week, I expect him to get another KO and a bonus 💰 Yod-iq to put on one of his best performances to date and beat Nabati by decision 🇹🇭 👊🏼 Liu Meng Yang to defeat Gabriel Pereira and go crazy on the mic 🇨🇳🤣 Panpayak to get back in the win column after a big statement win over Rhouni😮💨🥊 #ONEFridayFights155 #ONEChampionship
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