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Just off the bat, the wreckage isn't close enough together to indicate a collision. The aircraft also aren't angled in a way that suggests a collision, as the trailing aircraft is to the side of the lead aircraft and not behind it. If your theory is that the trailing aircraft hit the lead aircraft which had landed and was holding on the runway, why is the lead aircraft angled 45 degrees away? If the collision was severe enough to punt the lead aircraft that far askew, the wreckage of both aircraft would have been basically intertwined. While the runway might have been gravel, there was no apron. What likely happened is that aircraft had to go onto the shoulder of the runway to turn around, where the lead aircraft got stuck. Trailing aircraft had to hit the brakes.

🇺🇸 𝗖𝗦𝗔𝗥 𝗚𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝗖𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 Corrected composite image and infographic of the site where two USAF MC-130J Commando II aircraft and at least two AH/MH-6 Little Bird helicopters were scuttled in Isfahan province, Iran. The working theory: both MC-130Js, carrying elements of the 160th SOAR, landed on a gravel strip to rescue and exfiltrate the F-15E WSO. The first aircraft landed and held position. The second overshot the landing zone and collided with the stationary aircraft, disabling both. Why is it a collision? 1) The landing surface is gravel, not mud. Neither aircraft got stuck. and if one overshot and got stuck, why did the second plane drive off as well? 2) You would not park two MC-130Js in this configuration. One disabled aircraft would block the other's egress. 3) A ground-level photograph confirms both aircraft in close proximity at convergent headings before the fire, ruling out the proximity as a result of the destruction. 4) There are two aircraft on a runway 10' apart from each other and both were scuttled. Both were not stuck in the mud and both did not suffer simultaneous mechanical failures. #OSINT #Iran #OperationEpicFury

@warewars @LokiJulianus Look at your post. You're gloating about Iran hitting what is essentially a very expensive trailer that was stored under a tent. The US has landed troops in Iran and is dismantling Iran's ability to even produce weapons. x.com/RT_com/status/…

@notrustle @LokiJulianus Israel & US assets across the region have been bombed daily for the last month, from a country 1/4 the size & under embargo/sanctions for decades since they ousted the USrael-installed puppet regime. So are you getting pummeled by a non-actual military? x.com/ThomasBordeaux…

Third-worldist COPEsint accounts are having difficulty integrating “you're dealing with an actual military this time” into their analysis. “Wow, they sent multiple planes — it must have been a top secret mission to steal enriched uranium.”

Endangering in-country assets is a legitimate concern, but it could just as easily be disinformation to waste Iranian time. At least some of the info like the use of pilot PLBs is public knowledge, although not widely advertised. These details being revealed also may not present actionable opportunity to Iran- who may simply not have the ELINT to detect a tiny transmission through US EWAR. As far as future scenarios, landing C-130s with MH-6s is probably a one-and-done and Iran is already going to have a fairly clear picture of aircraft movement.

@warewars @LokiJulianus Is the "actual military" in the room with us right now? Why don't we start tallying up the damage at Mehrabad last night? Iran has been getting bombed daily for the last month.

@LokiJulianus USrael is having a really difficult time now that they are fighting an actual military instead of just bombing children & hospitals, and it's not so easy to lie to the world (and themselves) as it used to be.

If you can't articulate why I'm wrong, then you're just projecting your own lack of critical thinking skills. Just another pathetic Iranian shill in damage control mode. The US can land troops in Iran, have them run around for 12 hours, and then extract them safely. That's the fact of the matter. This week it was a downed pilot. Next week it could be a nuclear scientist.

@notrustle @Imback2222 @drhossamsamy65 You’re a bigger fool than most MAGA, zero critical thinking skills

⛔️Another evidence of the lies we are exposed to by this failing administration ‼️ ⛔️ The rescue of the second pilot gets so much more interesting when you realize he walked 110 miles in a single day to get to his location from crash sight and other pilot‼️

@christo77562346 @EyesOnSouth1 You are suffering from cognitive dissonance. There is literally Iranian-produced footage of UH-60s and American transport aircraft flying over southern Iran. Contrary to what your echo chamber has been telling you, Iran has not been winning the exchange.

@EyesOnSouth1 The fucking media keeps reporting on the “daring search and rescue 🛟 mission behind enemy lines” without even questioning the impossibility of it all!! Pathetic!!! 👎😡😡😡🐣

If you believe that the US sent 155 aircrafts flying for 48 hours to evacuate two pilots, then destroyed a bunch of them because of wet sand, then i have a maga campaign to sell you.

@RamiJai123 @lordnickbend @Jebus Where were the drones this time? Drone operators can't find their way to Isfahan?

@lordnickbend @Jebus Ok. Next time, they will not send guys, they will send Russian FPV drones. And then you will see a new type of video.

Shout out to the 24 y/o European males learning their people would do an equipment risk calculation vs their life if shit goes hot

@Fugazi140 @upholdreality Take a deep breath. Get some help.

@notrustle @upholdreality They were they dies I'm the planes and helicopters and you ran away, you got beat so bad Trump went on a swearing rant the next day because he knew how badly you got fcked. Try it again using all of the troops you've sent to the region and see what happens, that was a taster.

Iranian TV analysts break down how the US lost 12 aircraft in a single operation -- two C-130s, four Little Birds, four Black Hawks, and two MQ-9 drones. "I don't even know how to report this without laughing."

@Fugazi140 @upholdreality America landed troops in Iran, completed their mission, and successfully escaped. Where were the drone swarms? Where was the IRGC? Weren't these mountains supposed to be a deathtrap for US forces?

@notrustle @upholdreality The pictures suggest otherwise.

@calmdownf1rst @AlexLuck9 They most likely don't see it as a win at all. They are trying to frame it as a win by talking about destroyed aircraft to drown out the fact that the US just landed troops in Iran, completed their objective, and successfully exfiltrated.

@AlexLuck9 and what do you gain by eating the cookies? Iran shot down a plane. then (stuck in sand or damaged by iran) lost multiple other aircraft in the process of rescuing the operators of that plane. I can see why they see it as a win, America lost a lot of resources what did they?

US troops could parachute right into Tehran, film themselves eating all the cookies in the kitchen cupboard of whoever happens to be Supreme Leader at that point in time, and Iranian accounts would consider it an American defeat because they left behind all the filming equipment.

@MarioManelli_ @BertaProudDad whatabout whatabout

@BertaProudDad Separatists on here are openly threatening LGTBQ and Indigenous and I don't see any of you traitors rebuking them.

This happened today in Calgary ! These Anti Independence folks are COWARDS!

@DD_Geopolitics In before the big red X over his face in a group photo.

🇮🇷🔥 Abu Azrael, "The Angel of Death," has arrived in Tehran. Real name Ayoub Falih Hassan al-Rubaie, born 1978 in Iraq. Former university lecturer, one-time Taekwondo champion, and father of five. He first took up arms with the Mahdi Army against US forces during the 2003 invasion, then became one of the most feared commanders against ISIS in Syria and Iraq as part of the Popular Mobilization Forces. He's now in Tehran coordinating with the IRGC on plans for a potential US ground invasion. The man who fought the Americans in Iraq is back, and ready to do it again. His catchphrase: "Illa tahin" — "Grind you to dust."

On a basic level, Iran completely failed to seize what would have been an immense propaganda victory. The could have trot out a captured American in front of Iranian TV as a symbol of victory against American and Zionist imperialism. Instead, Iran gets some burnt down C-130s and MH-6s that for all we know might have been written off from the start of the operation as the cost of getting the pilot out of the mountains. From an analytic perspective, their failure totally collapses any narrative that Iran is "holding back" or that it's some impregnable fortress. Why didn't they send the big scary drone swarm we've been hearing about for the last 5 years at these C-130s that were apparently just sitting in the open on Iranian soil? Where was the mythic IRGC? US troops landed only 30mi from an Isfahan- a hub for both nuclear development and missile and aerospace production. Either 1) Iran isn't coordinated or flexible enough to actually react, 2) Iran doesn't have the actual ability to push through US air superiority, 3) Iran couldn't spare the manpower or munitions to interfere and simply sat it out. None of these reflect well on Iranian capabilities. Moreover, we now know the US can land troops in Iran, complete a mission, and extract them on short notice with little planning, sacrificing only aircraft. It begs the question what US SOCOM could do on Iranian soil with even a little more planning. So yes, abject failure.

@notrustle @drhossamsamy65 Taking out 4-6 of our planes in 24 hours doesn’t feel like a “total failure” to me

@kc10usaf @Jeff_Cunny @drhossamsamy65 Iran failed to capture the F-15 pilot or WSO. That is a fact. Cope and seethe.

@Jeff_Cunny @notrustle @drhossamsamy65 I should have said "failing" I stand corrected.

@EveryManPrepper @rdd147 We know where they ejected? It seems much more likely that they simply ejected further south than where they were hit (which itself may be further south than presumed). Even if we assume a moderate speed of 700mph, 2 minutes of flying is over 20mi.

@rdd147 Zero chance he walked that far. That is 3+ miles an hour, 24 hours straight, through mountains... NO WAY

The rescue of the second pilot gets so much more interesting when you realize he walked 110 miles in a single day to get to his location from crash sight and other pilot.

@L1ghtBrngr @DelusionPosting Nonsense. Countless great hunting calibers that are smaller than .30. .223 is a lighter caliber, but it's totally sufficient for smaller big game like whitetail.

@DelusionPosting People dont hunt with AR15s. It's a glorified .22 caliber. It's illegal in Florida. You need a .30 or better really if you want a clean and effective kill. Also, the 5.56mm or .223 thats common in ar15s are not that strong. They're not gonna obliterate the meat lol.

@domptydom @Arrogance_0024 They can't reliably down a pilot, though. It's been over a month and literally thousands of sorties and they've shot down one aircraft.

@Arrogance_0024 Iran can reliably down a pilot, force a disproportionate response, and shape the battlespace around that. Americans are easily manipulated

The "leave no man behind" doctrine is actually a strategic weakness disguised as a virtue. Name one other military on earth that destroys 6 aircraft and fights a ground battle inside a sovereign nation to recover one pilot. You can't. Because no other military confuses tactical sentimentality with strategic logic. Soldiers serve the mission. The mission doesn't serve the soldier. The US has now established that Iran can shoot down an F-15, then watch America spend $300M and expose Delta Force trying to prove it didn't happen. That's not military doctrine. That's politics with weapons. A military that cannot accept the risk of loss cannot win wars. The US hasn't won one since 1945.

@hughmungusmusic @visionergeo Iran shoots their first plane down after more than a month into the war... I would say their air defense is pretty nonexistent.

🇺🇸🇮🇷 In Iran, at the location where U.S. forces established a makeshift airstrip to carry out the evacuation of American Special Operations forces and the recovered pilot, two C-130 transport aircraft that had landed became stuck in the sand. As a result, U.S. forces destroyed the aircraft themselves. Afterwards, three additional aircraft were deployed to extract the special forces personnel remaining in Iran, and the evacuation was successfully completed. See the latest updates with us: @visionergeo