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@YorchTorchGames A totally rational response to a great game with no overt political agenda.
Remember when this crowd says they only "want games with no politics" it is a transparent lie since there are no politics to be seen in this game.
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@RandomTask42965 A feminist activist threw the first stone 🤷🏻♂️
They're now reaping what they sowed.
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@YorchTorchGames I appreciate you confirming that it isn't "gamers fighting for good games" and is just another front for this childish culture war, cheers!
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@RandomTask42965 @YorchTorchGames So you would agree that the person responsible for starting this had child like intentions. Noted.
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@cody_hellman @YorchTorchGames It started off childish and watching this prolonged slap fight is just baffling at this point. Do you actually want good games or just to "win" however that is defined?
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@RandomTask42965 @YorchTorchGames Having good games and boycotting anything to do with political activists are linked.
If they associate anything to do with "activist person" equals loss of profits then they will start ignoring them. Her job is toi quite literally ruin games, or make good games worse.
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@cody_hellman @YorchTorchGames I can respect your viewpoint but here is the vital question, how did she "ruin" or otherwise make Slay the Spire 2 a worse game? The slogans aren't very moving if they are just broadly thrown around against otherwise great games.
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@RandomTask42965 @cody_hellman @YorchTorchGames u do realize everything u say is a self contradiction? IF IT HAS NO effect of anything and she didnt "Ruin" it why dafuq is shired to begin with? and if she was hired and did do stuff then she did negative stuff cuz thats her express purpose
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@RR5543364050904 @cody_hellman @YorchTorchGames You are assuming she "ruined" it due to bias without elaborating on how because you have no definitive facts. I keep asking for an explanation and I get vague "she will ruin all of gaming" dramatics. I did at least get one solid joke response so at least your side has jokes.
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@RandomTask42965 @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames I already explained to you that we will never know if the current art direction was censored because of her inclusion. You are free to ignore my posts but that doesnt do well when you claim we have given zero points, it just makes you look like an ass.
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@cody_hellman @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames We are at a stalemate because I ask "How Slay the Spire 2 was affected/censored?" and you give me hypotheticals or "gaming will be brought low" if one consultant you don't like works on a game. Not sure where we go from here. At least you are polite to talk to, so thank you.
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@RandomTask42965 @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames m.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqYLf…
This is why people are outraged over her inclusion. If you see nothing wrong with supporting someone with these viewpoints then this conversation is over. I have spelt it out for you.
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@cody_hellman @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames I find her critiques superficial and her Mass Effect section is complaing about marketing/community nicknames than the games itself. Her role as a consultant is entirely optional and while I don't hold the concerns she has I don't have to accept review bombs of good games either.
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@RandomTask42965 @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames Her critiques can't be superficial if she's actively being hired on as a consultant. That's the opposite of being superficial. That's the thing though, hiring her IS optional, so why did they hire her in the first place? Idc if you accept but don't act as if its over nothing.
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@cody_hellman @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames I meant that her critiques were shallow visual complaints.
If she consults on a game and the game is bad then I fully support giving the game the appropriate review score.
That a game could come out, loved for hundreds of hours, and suddenly it's bad now is just too far for me.
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@chillazero @cody_hellman @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames Veilguard get roasted as it should be since it was awful, this is one of the few hobbies where people can love a product and are immediately told to hate it based on who is involved. If I had to run an ethics/politics screening on every purchase I made it would be preposterous.
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@RandomTask42965 @chillazero @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames When you see the damage she has done, and is still doing, to the gaming sphere, you would hate her too. I want anything associated with her name to mean loss of profit to developers. If sts2 has to be the sacrificial lamb to achieve that so be it.
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@cody_hellman @chillazero @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames Well I hope you succeed in your goals, you were calm and rational despite your clear animosity towards her. I don't see it yet but perhaps she will intervene in a project I care about and will change my mind but I will say you have some very boisterous folks harming your cause.
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@RandomTask42965 @chillazero @RR5543364050904 @YorchTorchGames We have seen the results of ignoring a problem, it festers and becomes worse. Now people are (rightfully so) outraged at her mention. If anything it's a good thing people are being passionate about this.
Thank you for the pleasant conversation. Hope she never ruins a game again
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