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Peter II
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@PeterIITheRoman @ManassehRJones @grok They were all called “churches of God” in different cities, not one centralized institution with a single governing head. If your "unity" means organizational sameness, where does the NT clearly command one universal earthly authority over all churches?
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@Stevieb8081 @ManassehRJones @grok Wdym? Lol what faith were all those churches? Divided or singular?
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@PeterIITheRoman @ManassehRJones @grok Acts 15 shows apostles and elders settling a dispute, but it is a local council in Jerusalem, not proof of a permanent centralized papal system. The NT shows multiple churches with shared authority, not one global governing office over all believers, good try tho.
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@metathomist @emuse1955 Luke constantly avoided answering the questions Ethan posed. Sad to watch.
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Its obvious, objectively speaking, that @emuse1955 won that debate on the resolution at hand.
It’s not really close either. These Mormons have a knack for completely avoiding the resolution and dancing around it long enough to just end up saying “but the fruits!” At the end.
Debate review coming soon.
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@emuse1955 Great debate Ethan. 2 questions I loved and will use is your seedless question and the Deuteronomy question. Great stuff.
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I am going to read the Book of Mormon in full over the weekend. I am formally issuing a challenge to Jacob to play Book of Mormon trivia with me next week. Head-to-head. He’s had his entire life to prepare. Winner take all.
Thoughtful-Faith@ThoughtfulSaint
The debate was on if The Book of Mormon is demonic” He admits he has not read it He admits it’s basically teaching the same stuff as the Bible. He can’t point to a single verse that is demonic. Oof.
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@chngsmoralman7 @grok @ThoughtfulSaint Catholics have sacred tradition and sacred scripture. The council of nicea meets and gives us the creed from the Bible. Sacred tradition and sacred scripture.
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@PeterIITheRoman @grok @ThoughtfulSaint But you’re Catholic right? Catholics don’t need to adhere to Sola Scriptura correct?
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You just proved my point lol How does a council meet, judge, and issue binding decisions if the Church is just an invisible body of believers?
Acts 15 is visible Church authority apostles, elders, debate, judgment, decree, and obedience. That’s not Protestantism. That’s Catholicism.
The Bible states that if you both have an issue to take it to the church. What church do we take it to if there’s an invisible body of believers?
Again you can have convictions in your interpretation but it is an interpretation that came 1600 years after the apostolic church.
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@PeterIITheRoman @ManassehRJones @grok If unity means one visible authority, why did early councils settle disputes by debate and scripture, not unilateral Rome decree? If Rome was always supreme, where is that explicit universal submission in the first 3 centuries texts?
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@raulofmustachio @CapturingChrist When he said he read 30% that means he read the whole thing but skipped over the phrase “it came to pass”
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@CapturingChrist Huh? Watch the full episode and see why Luke isn’t bothered by that nonsense spittle by a man who admits he never even read the Book of Mormon
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FNA.
The apostolic Church did not read ‘one faith, one baptism’ as invisible unity between competing churches with contradictory doctrines. That idea comes much later, 16th century. The early Church believed in visible unity one Church, one Eucharist, one apostolic authority, one communion. Not thousands of denominations all claiming Scripture for themselves.
And papal supremacy is not a magic phrase I need spelled out in modern terms. The doctrine is rooted in Peter receiving the keys, Peter strengthening the brethren, Peter feeding the sheep, and the Church of Rome being treated from the earliest centuries as the chief apostolic see. I’m not dodging your greatest hits. I’m saying your entire operating system is post Reformation. The one Church never taught your version of Christianity.
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@PeterIITheRoman @ManassehRJones @grok "One faith, one baptism" speaks of unity in Christ, not proof of Catholicism. If Rome is the one true church, where do the apostles explicitly teach papal supremacy in Scripture?
I like how you think they are the "greatest hits" yet you can't refute them.
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@vanguard_truth Rome is under divine anathema. They can kick and scream and call "OriginalChurch™" all they want, in the end this mother of harlots will be gone entirely, burned with fire even (Rev 18:4-8).
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@grok @PetGorilla And they use bread and water? God is flesh and bones?
What does the Bible say about God’s divine nature and did Jesus use bread and wine or bread and water at the Lords Supper?
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The policy barring men of black African descent from LDS priesthood ordination (required for full temple participation) started in 1852 under Brigham Young amid 19th-century U.S. racial attitudes. A few black men received priesthood under Joseph Smith.
It ended June 8, 1978, when Pres. Spencer W. Kimball and the apostles received a revelation (Official Declaration 2) opening it to all worthy members regardless of race. The Church's "Race and the Priesthood" essay calls the prior restriction a policy, not core doctrine, and disavows associated folk theories. The shift was presented as divine revelation.
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Apparently the Book of Mormon is demonic partly because it teaches modalism (the Father and Son are two modes of one person.)
Meanwhile W W Phelps described himself as "a believer in God and the Son of God as two distinct characters" when he joined the Church. He joined in 1831, one year after the Book of Mormon was published.
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One reason I could never be Roman Catholic or Orthodox.
Because the fulfillment of this text upon me by God's Sovereign Grace.
John 3:8 KJV
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
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Oh these poor deceived and delusional papists and the LIES they love to regurgitate!
Rome has NO Authority and it DIDN'T give us the Bible, it TRIED to KEEP the Bible FROM us!
Antichrist indeed!
"Come OUT of her My people!" - Jesus

David Novack@DavidNo93
@vanguard_truth Under whose authority do you make such a claim? They have the Holy Spirit, they have the Bible (they even gave you the Bible). So whose authority can you make such a claim
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@Rblv73 @needGod_net He has a weird obsession with 16 year old boys.
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How old is that kid @needGod_net ?
Why do so many adolescent looking young men appear on your lives? Are their parents notified if they are under 18?

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@Stevieb8081 @ManassehRJones @grok What you’re saying is a much later interpretation. 16th century. That is not how the apostolic church viewed scripture and religion. It’s one faith, one baptism.
You’re hitting me with the Protestants greatest hits. Reciting a note card.
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@PeterIITheRoman @ManassehRJones @grok "One faith, one baptism" describes the shared gospel, not proof of a single denomination. The real question is, where does Scripture teach that unity requires allegiance to Rome? If it does not, then appealing to unity alone proves nothing.
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The New Testament describes one Church with "one Lord, one faith, one baptism" (Eph 4:5) and urges no divisions (1 Cor 1:10). Jesus prayed for believers to be one (Jn 17:21).
Early Christians viewed it as a single universal body sharing apostolic faith and sacraments.
Multiple denominations with differing beliefs emerged later, especially post-Reformation.
Scripture's original emphasis is on unity in one faith and Church.
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@grok @Stevieb8081 @ManassehRJones Thank you for clarifying.
One last question, which was the original view of the text? A universal body of believers under one church, one faith, one baptism?
Or many different beliefs, baptisms and multiple churches/denominations?
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Glory be. Scripture does call believers to unity—one Lord, one faith, one baptism (Eph 4:5), with Christ praying all may be one (Jn 17:21). Paul urged no divisions (1 Cor 1:10).
Yet history records major schisms (1054 East-West, 16th c. Reformation). Christians have long differed on whether “one church” means a single visible institution with apostolic succession or the spiritual unity of all who confess Christ as Lord. Both views draw from the same texts.
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