Brian Williams

Dude, if you can't be bothered to watch my nine part, 1 hour per episode, YouTube series entitled "Me explaining what you couldn't possibly understand otherwise," that devastates all of your arguments, before responding, then clearly you know I'm right.

@LonghornJoker Proof texting is what Jesus does and Paul does and seems to do more than he does. It has some authoritative history. But it's worth noting that Paul explicitly moves the old meanings to suit what has happened. He does not assume they were locked, he develops into something new.

So…why did Syriac Christians also read the text that way; they were not Hellenized and made it a point to stay as close to Judaism in their Christianity as possible.

@JoshuaLWatson And by this I mean new meaning for the scripture that existed before he was born. It means something different to a Christian than Paul was raised to believe ( the earlier stumbling block version). The meaning we perceive is his doing. Not proper interpretation, he made it so.

@JoshuaLWatson He does. Paul too. But Paul openly and actively moves the meaning. He does not treat scripture as constraint, he creates new meaning for scripture, that he did not inherit, but Christians now believe was there all along. Unified and final/constraining aren't the same.

No amount of "But Jesus agrees with me" will make the view that the human biblical authors always agree with each other less ridiculous, desperate, or at odds with the best scholarship. It is better to part with dogmas when they impede understanding.

@XGolemgesk7208 @WreckersDatas So it tries to have the cred and block the progress it lead to. It's its own trap.

@XGolemgesk7208 @WreckersDatas You aren't familiar with my worldview. Refusing tit for tat is hardly concession. Christianity gets cred from touting respecting for truth even if it means painfully abandoning the old and comfortable. People believe that and it's Christianity's undoing.

Is what an illiterate would say. What you today call "basic human decency" was acquired because of Christianity

@XGolemgesk7208 @WreckersDatas Unless it extricates itself from proclaiming truth as necessary, Unless it undermines honesty, the ideas it suppresses re-emerge. People playing the religion game have to say it's real and then there are True Believers and then truth and growth causes the ideas to reemerge..

@XGolemgesk7208 @WreckersDatas It's possible that Christianity can force a regression, in spite of how we've learned to think and grow. It could happen. But the ideas, the process of learning, books, they'll remain. It will always be in danger of growth.

@ScottRoberts Sadly Christianity is the one that tells you that you are forced, like it or not, to exist, doomed from birth. Further that existence was forced upon you even if the creator of your soul knew you'd stay damned.

Culture encourages you to think, "I was born this way!" Christ said, "You must be born again."

@KangintheNorth @JoshuaLWatson @beyoncegarden Not sure how he gets sucked into it. Sometimes I think he's pretty bright and then I see him doing this and not perceiving how it looks. Weird.

@SoftwareEUG @JoshuaLWatson @beyoncegarden He really doesn't know how to debate when his interlocutor has a firm grasp of logic and won't let him obfuscate. These kids are the future.

he CLEARED him so bad i’m crying he just wouldn’t answer😭

@jessewrights87 @WreckersDatas It was a silly assertion based on anti-reading.

@WreckersDatas @SoftwareEUG - Ancient Stoics talked about compassion and justice for all. - Buddhism emphasizes compassion and caring for the vulnerable. - Ancient Egypt's Book of the Dead has principles of justice and protecting the poor. - Many indigenous cultures had communal care systems. Try again.

@XGolemgesk7208 @WreckersDatas Christianity was in place when progress was made but doesn't like being left behind now that it's going nowhere. Now it opposes progress. In your case denies it. Touting it as vehicle to here, then, since it's going nowhere, trying to keep us from continuing the journey...

@SoftwareEUG @WreckersDatas so you think that negative claims _do_ require evidence?

@PeterSweden7 Arguing Creator to get God is all assumptions. Designers need not fabricate/create, creators need not understand design, gods need only exist for generations of humanity with power limited to Earth. "Had a beginning" is an argument for a God not constrained by being in evidence.

What is your best logical argument for the existence of God? I have two arguments that are very compelling... Argument number 1: The universe must logically have had a beginning. If it had a beginning, then that beginning must have had a cause. That cause must be outside of this universe and outside of time. An eternal, all powerful source. In other words, God. The other option would be that the universe, time and matter was eternal. Which would per definition place it in the category of supernatural, which is absurd. Argument number 2: If good and evil exists, that means God must also exist. Why? Because God is what gives the ultimate compass for what is objectively good and evil. Without God, an higher power that is all knowing and perfect, moral laws become subjective to each one of us. You cannot have moral law without a moral law giver. We can observe and logically understand that objective moral laws do indeed exist. We can clearly see that evil, that which goes against the objective moral law, does exist. Therefore good, that which follows the objectively moral law, must also exist. And if those are true, therefore then, God exists.

@JoshuaLWatson @beyoncegarden It's obvious people really "want it" and so buy into Peterson being a voice of reason but, if his intent is to impress/convince people of his level of intelligence and reading, he really should stop debating--especially grown ups. Basically has tricks/games/maneuvers or nothing.

@beyoncegarden It's amazing that Jordon Peterson, someone so obviously full of shit and interested in nothing but dodging and stalling when talking about God, tells his interlocutor, "Stop playing games" after pretending to have no idea what believing something means.

@TheresaArueyin1 Euthypro unresolved, unfortunately. Old men used to tell me "I can't prove it but it helps me be a better man." That's legit.Helps. Brainwashed changes behavior--works. But the working/helping isn't true--your list and better man is. What "works" can work for truth or not truth.

Yes, Christianity brainwashed me. Now I want to: • love one person for life • pray for people who hurt me • forgive easily • stay away from gossip • build a beautiful family • and find my purpose in Jesus If that’s “brainwashed”… I’m staying like this. Who else?

@taco_talks Literally? I've heard people speak. A god, heck a demi-god trapped in earth gravity, barely powerful enough to make earthquakes, floods and such, could speak to all at once, quake, remove all doubt. You point to words men wrote and you rarely know the writer. Not literally.

Imagine hating God’s word this much that you pretend God literally speaking isn’t the highest authority.

@j_fishback No. I paid steady taxes--more than parents--to provide for children's education, while childless. That's part of my citizenship. No reason we pay you back if you don't drive on the roads. No we don't give you money if you don't ever use courts or public transport.

If you decide to pull your child from public school and homeschool your child You should get the full $13,000 for your child that would have been spent on your child in public school

@NancyRPearcey There are all sorts of movements that helped humanity progress but, thankfully, didn't then anchor us there, and resist going forward. Christianity (and some others) thankfully, lead to understanding some of Christianity's problems. Now doesn't want us to look there.

@NancyRPearcey "Christianity fostered thinking that lead to scientific method" can be right because it valued truth over comfort, respected truth, and not want us to keep going that way. Resist it, now, even. Car that got us here, though. Respect. Now trade it in for one that's still moving.

In The Soul of Science, I make the case that Christianity provided the metaphysical principles required for the rise of modern science. Excerpt: The well-known science writer Loren Eiseley points out that many great civilizations have risen and fallen without developing the scientific method--which implies that that it requires some kind of "unique soil in which to flourish." And what is that unique soil? To his own surprise, Eiseley discovered that: "It is the Christian world which finally gave birth in a clear, articulate fashion to the experimental method of science." Why is that? Eiseley explains that "Science began its discoveries . . . in the faith, not the knowledge, that it was dealing with a rational universe controlled by a Creator who did not act upon whim nor interfere with the forces He had set in operation." Eiseley is using the term "faith" not in a religious sense but in the sense that it had to PRECEDE actual scientific investigation. Before science can get off the ground, certain tacit assumptions have to be in place--for example, that there is an intelligible order in nature--what we call "laws" of nature. Here's how one historian put it: The use of the word ‘law’ in such contexts [in talking about nature] would have been unintelligible in antiquity, whereas the Hebraic and Christian belief in a deity who was at once Creator and Law-giver rendered it valid. (A. R. Hall, The Scientific Revolution, 1500-1800)

@virgilwalker Say "the bible" rather than "Christianity" & 1st sentence is legit. Second is wrong. "Biblical" meant women in dresses to floor and legs hidden at beach, slavery (and beating slaves) OK, killing moms and babe-in-their-arms required, segregation good. Christianity changes. Should.

Biblical Christianity does not affirm, support, or promote homosexuality. It is an abomination from which all practicing homosexuals must repent. ***This is for all the self-professed so-called "Christian" sports commentators who are pretending not to know this truth.***

@XGolemgesk7208 @WreckersDatas 2025 Account Declares It Thus It Must Be So. Evidence? What's that?

@SoftwareEUG @WreckersDatas progress is fake. we are in the degenerative part of the cycle of civilizations. atheism has nothing to offer. and never has had anything to offer.