George@georgejrjrjr
I ran this experiment! I took the QC challenge!
Not just with Brent --but with a several tpot-cancelled "Dangerous People". Big fun! Highly recommended.
Here are my findings from the weekend with Brent:
Turnout was great. Nearly all women. One of my favorite (and most beautiful, brilliant, young) friends drove FOUR HOURS to be there. Ladies love outlaws!
(ProTip: if you aren't getting enough feminine energy at your events, advertising it as an opportunity to meet a reputedly DANGEROUS man is a fantastic way to fix that).
Brent came and ran his tabletop game. Everyone was having a blast, because the game is excellent and Brent is a skilled, passionate DM. He also cooked the best lamb stew I have ever had, fed my whole family, in addition to all these ladies stoked to meet our 'dangerous' man of mystery.
Much of Brent's evident skill in DMing is generous heart-centered attunement to the vibe, and ample care for the comfort and enjoyment you rarely find in TPOT spaces. Most in this scene are either too head bound to notice what Brent does intuitively, or lack the empathy to behave kindly with that knowledge.
The funny part was watching --over the course of the evening-- the lights turn on as each participant realized --stunned and confused-- PRECISELY WHICH deeply infamous person was leading them in this game!
Like wait...this guy who's rumored to be is the same guy holding space generously and openly with no 'grabby' or fearful / aversive energy towards anyone? When was the last time a rationalist guy showed aptitude at THAT?! (For those who don't know, rat-adjacent women tolerate --or, darkly, cultivate-- bizarre behavior from men as a matter of course, so it was startling that the supposed exemplar of rat-man badness was so far from that energy).
One dear friend of mine who attended is particularly excellent at spotting subtle signs of dangerous energies and proclivities, and she's been in the scene a long time, so she's sensibly cautious around rationalist men. Especially: being alone with rationalist men with concerning subtle behaviors. She enjoyed Brent SO MUCH --to her shock-- so much she went back to his bus alone and talked with him into the wee hours of the morning. Had a great time. Zero weirdness.
When the game was winding down, my dad strolled through for some stew. I adore my Dad. He's deeply devoted, high integrity, and kind --but he's not an easy man to delight. He does a lot for everyone, but it's hard challenging to return the favor. I am better at bringing my Dad joy than the vast majority of people, having been working diligently at that thing for ~40 years, but --to my shock-- Brent is way better at it. A passing hello turned into a deeply meaningful connection with my Dad as
Brent tuned it, saw my Dad's heart, did a quarter second calibration, and IMMEDIATELY dove into every one of my Dad's deepest passions --somehow all at once. I've never seen anything like it. I'm not sure my Dad had either. As their conversation was wrapping up, Dad --not usually a social butterfly-- said smth like, "Wow. Um. I'm really glad I stopped."
I don't know if there was literally a tear in his eye, but I think it was close.
The next morning I said, "Guess what? That is the most hated man in my community."
Dad was ***utterly stunned***. And angry, even after I told him about the legitimately bad stuff Brent did. He now probably has a an ***even lower** opinion of this scene than he did already, for cruelty to the one rat-adjacent person in the scene who has really shown him kindness that landed, without any awkwardness or weirdness.
For context, my parent's experience of rationalist-adjacent scene has been plainly terrible. They loathe this scene and wish I would spend my time anywhere else. I love my friends, of course. But many live in this bubble, have never meaningfully connected outside the bubble, and don't know how: highly unskilled at basic normie relational skills. In a way that reads as very rude if you're not accustomed to the norms (rather, the lack thereof) in the ffgk bubble. And they have better visibility into the OUTRAGEOUS behavior of the truly danger characters in the scene --the sexual violence, the fraud, the lying, more lying...so much lying.
Brent was the glaring exception. A real boy, with a heart you can feel, among the turtle necks. It isn't subtle. (And it isn't that he isn't on the spectrum --he just learned to drop in way better than most with the 'tism).
So: A+++ would host again.
Unlike nearly any rationalist identifying or adjacent man --and CERTAINLY any of the sw simping chronically incel 'nice guys', many of whom turn into Werewolf if you present them with a pretty woman-- if my beloved little sister said, "I'm going to hitch a ride with Brent to a party in a dark wood four hours away in West Virginia with no cell service" I would have FOMO --and I might worry about other people at the party and randos and ticks and bears and stuff-- but I would worry much less than if Brent were not there.
One major safety benefit to having Brent around is that he is the ultimate canary in the coal mine. Many people in this scene are very nice if they think you're high status, and unspeakably cruel and violent when they do not. Also: Brent has been around a long time.
This means there are few better maps than Brent's of human beings in this community who are actually FUCKING TERRIFYING --particularly sadists. Because literally everyone in the community knows by now that Brent was socially costless to abuse for a long time. (Rather: it has been socially costly NOT to abuse Brent). Thus, if you want to know if someone is secretly a sadistic freak, there are few better health and safety background checks you can do than asking Brent. Chances are good if someone is local and cruel, they have been so to Brent, and he likely has receipts.
Of course for Brent's safety I would not make that explicit accept that the tide is FINALLY turning downstream of courageous actions by @GKunstwerk*, @DefenderOfBasic, @monistowl, @mimi10v3, @SarahAMcManus**, @Malcolm_Ocean, @Morphenius, and others I'm forgetting now***.
And now people are starting to wake up to the fact that ACTUALLY Brent is valuable and fun***. But because he has historically been costly NOT to abuse, MANY people have shown their true --often horrifying-- colors in his direction. Get the receipts while you can, before they're deleted.
Particularly: many of those deeply wounded truth spurning people are ALSO among the most insufferable love and light cosmic compassion dharma larpers on this website. If you're autistic, those can be hard to spot and easy to simp for. So before you follow or trust a love and light lady proffering parasocial compassion, or --worse-- protection from the 'bad people', see if she's disseminated some malicious lie about Brent Dill.
The other major health and safety boon to being friends with Brent: he knows where MANY MANY documented bodies are buried, he knows the skeletons in MANY MANY closets, and if you don't think that is at least part of why a community centrally concerned with epistemic virtue threw it all out the window to libel and terrorize that man IN PARTICULAR (when there are so many here who are known to have done SO MUCH WORSE with no remorse), you are so pitifully stupid I want you extremely far from my mind.
SO IN CONCLUSION:
* My data from conducting the QC challenge does not support QC's hypothesis.
* Inviting Brent to your parties is a better way to meet women than "Women came social mixers" in SF, so long as you advertise his infamy.
* Brent runs a mean table top game, and makes fantastic stew.
* Brent could end up being the most successfully compassionate person in your loved one's life --in an instant.
* You can be WILDLY safer in this community if you listen to him, include him in events, search for his libelers, keep the receipts, and hold the perpetrators with suspicion and contempt (until and unless they publicly recant and repent)*****
Footnotes:
* Gentleman Sausage deserves special praise for making AN ENTIRE MOVIE documenting the scapegoating of Brent Dill.
** Sarah deserves special praise for being the first to warn me that the "Brent is a psychopath" narrative was a lie I had been told, and is also the first person I witnessed imposing a social cost on a very high status person --a woman, even!-- over her treatment of Brent.
At the time I was naive and just assumed the ubiquitous narrative must be correct --these are rationalists, after all?. So I didn't understand at the time. But to my **very limited** credit and retrospective relief, I didn't fight her on it.
*** It is not AT ALL to my credit that I waited until after I heard about @GKunstwerk's film to post something like this. The man I aspire to be would have summoned the backbone to have done so earlier.
Further, there is one party I do recall doing outsized kindness for Brent which I do appreciate, but am omitting intentionally --perhaps out of cowardice!-- because mentioning him would be a distraction from this write-up due to his half-earned in-the-gutter reputation. I don't generally endorse withholding acknowledgement of good things just because they come from people with serious behavior issues, but in this case it's too much for a post that's already going to anger a lot of extremely tedious busybodies.
**** in settings to which he's well fit, which basically means giving him something to do while he's solvent enough not to worry about his dog's next meal
***** NOT ever person who has ever complained about Brent.
Obviously that would be hypocritical: Brent is the first person to speak poorly about Brent, and VIGOROUSLY steelman his persecutors.
I am specifically (sadly not narrowly) talking about cruelty and particularly lies.