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Mountainside Katılım Nisan 2019
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memetic_sisyphus@memeticsisyphus·
I will be keeping a list of books read this year, along with a short review about them, and a rating. The rating is a 1-5 scale: 5: This is one of my new favorite books 4: I would include this book on a list for anyone who asks for a book recommendation 3: I would recommend this book, but it would come with heavy caveats 2: I wouldn’t recommend reading, but I didn’t regret having spent time with it 1: I regretted reading this
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There’s like three Greeks we would even consider listening to on ethics, and even those three we throw out half of what they say. If you read through Greek history or literature you find a society with a totally alien morality to ours.
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memetic_sisyphus@memeticsisyphus·
@mtn_glenn The good could not have come without the suffering is indeed my point.
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Glenn@mtn_glenn·
@memeticsisyphus Jesus's suffering representing "the most extreme sacrifice" only makes sense if you acknowledge suffering as bad. Here again, if Jesus instead experienced the most delicious flavor of chocolate, his sacrifice would lose all of its moral weight.
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Glenn@mtn_glenn·
@memeticsisyphus If suffering wasn't bad, it wouldn't serve its evolutionary function of causing avoidance. A child learning to walk learns to be careful around corners because stubbing your toe causes suffering. If stubbing your toe tasted like chocolate, people would do it eagerly.
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T_p_tio 🎈@Txp_RBI_Xctuxl·
@memeticsisyphus Yeah I was told this was a World Cup feature, we were sold a bill of goods in that regard.
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memetic_sisyphus@memeticsisyphus·
It’s a broader problem with reducing complex ethical questions into nursery rhyme platitudes. Is suffering bad? Well no not always, not even most of the time. To sacrifice is to suffer. To move through time we must constantly sacrifice what is for what will be. We have no choice in that, it’s the nature of our being. We have to give up now for then. Every act we choose to do comes at the expense of the acts we don’t do. This is why suffering is so central to Christianity, because it’s so central to being. When God came to this world to live as man he underwent the most extreme sacrifice, the most extreme suffering because that’s the utmost expression of our temporal existence.
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@memeticsisyphus @Mortiguin91 We can’t even agree that suffering is bad. I suffer when I make sacrifices to safe for retirement. I suffer when I work overtime. I suffer in the gym.

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memetic_sisyphus@memeticsisyphus·
Whenever they’re asked to examine any of this, they respond with anger, lashing out, deflecting anything but an honest assessment of their own beliefs.
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Ryan Rodman@Rodman1_r2·
@memeticsisyphus Actually most morality is shaped by evolution. We just attach specific cultural explanations to things we do and feel naturally. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
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Jug@imcalledjug·
@memeticsisyphus It happened one single time during the England v Norway game. Got a good cheer at the bar though
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