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× انضم Mart 2014
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𐌁𐌉Ᏽ 𐌕𐌉𐌌𐌉@OrevaZSN·
We cannot have sustainable energy because it threatens the oil industry. We cannot have healthcare because it threatens insurance. We cannot have peace because it threatens the weapons industry. Capitalism built a system where doing the right thing is treated like bad business.
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yakra@txnoco·
@HecklesJC @Review_bra you have not displayed any good faith for me to have any trust to neither propose the exercise to you specifically nor to believe your statement.
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Heckles@HecklesJC·
@txnoco @Review_bra I have done that with many people now, including my elderly grandmother and mother. 100% red.
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yakra@txnoco·
@prerat if you didnt specify the button color im sure even less would push red sice some of those voted out of spite bc they saw what you were doing
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prerat@prerat·
it was interesting that the comments for both of these were full of people saying "see everyone, this OBVIOUSLY clarifies the original problem!!!" not realizing the other poll with the opposite result existed too
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Richard Hannay 🇺🇦 🇵🇸
Richard Hannay 🇺🇦 🇵🇸@RichardHannay17·
pweeeeease make it easier for me to game theory this pweeeeease I know the prompt said "everyone in the world" Including babies and the infirm and others who may otherwise be unable to vote rationally PWEEEEASE I WANT EVERYONE TO BE RATIONAL ACTORS OTHERWISE I CANT VOTE PWEEEASE
Lyman Stone 石來民 🦬🦬🦬@lymanstoneky

I’d press red. I have four kids. If your reading of the scenario is “we are offering the hypothetical only in English and to 3 day old babies who can’t even push buttons” you’re an idiot. Tye scenario necessarily implies the choosers are limited to people *who can understand the choice*.

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yakra@txnoco·
@Takoluka1 @KainYusanagi @Review_bra yes because again i personally would donate blood but people do not consider the action of pressing a button as scary and time consuming as sticking a needle on your arm and waiting for a blood bag to fill
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Takoluka@Takoluka1·
@txnoco @KainYusanagi @Review_bra Look, if >90% of people aren't going to willingly engage in life-saving altruism when 0 risk is involved, do you think that the majority of them will choose the option that risks their life for altruistic purposes when they could pick the option that guarentees self preservation?
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yakra@txnoco·
@Takoluka1 @KainYusanagi @Review_bra you are judging the consequences i am saying the action itself is not comparable. pressing the button in itself is not comparable to spending time and having a syringe inserted in your arm, regardless of consequences
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Takoluka@Takoluka1·
@txnoco @KainYusanagi @Review_bra It's press a button and have a significant chance of dropping dead versus spending some time donating blood. I don't know about you, but the risk of suddenly dropping dead weighs a lot on my decision making process if it is a possible consequence.
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yakra@txnoco·
@xenophonOK @Review_bra those are not mutually exclusive and being teleported to a booth to press a button does not read as an active threat or impending doom universally. i suggest you participate in the excercise
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Gelatin Enjoyer@xenophonOK·
@txnoco @Review_bra They don’t mean real life as in off line, they’re saying if people’s lives were actually in jeopardy that they would be more inclined to choose red
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yakra@txnoco·
@Takoluka1 @KainYusanagi @Review_bra there is not any metaphorical gun, this is your subjective interpretation. how is "spend half an hour" (to cite one of many differences) easier than pressing a button? im not against donating blood but it is objectively easier to press a button and you're arguing for the opposite
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Takoluka@Takoluka1·
@txnoco @KainYusanagi @Review_bra Look, if you're expecting human selflessness and altruism to suddenly reveal itself at the barrel of a metaphorical gun, when they are unwilling to spend half an hour donating blood at the blood drive in the Walmart parking lot they're already at, then that's a lot of optimism.
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yakra@txnoco·
@Takoluka1 @Review_bra again not active choice and not everyone can donate even if they could. ask any child if they would donate blood to save someone
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Takoluka@Takoluka1·
@txnoco @Review_bra You right that it's not the same situation. It is a situation where it is much easier to pick the blue button. It's a situation where the overwhelming majority should be pushing the blue button because there is 0 risk and only benefit, and we're only at 3%.
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yakra@txnoco·
@Takoluka1 @KainYusanagi @Review_bra people are never in a situation where it is required to choose between donating once or never ever donating. this is one of the few core differences in your comparison
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Takoluka@Takoluka1·
@KainYusanagi @txnoco @Review_bra Only 3% of qualified blood donors in the US actually donate blood. And that's a low risk activity that actually saves lives. Do you really thin you'll get 51% of the world population to risk their lives when we can only get 3% of people to make a miniscule sacrifice?
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yakra@txnoco·
@Takoluka1 @Review_bra i believe you are well intentioned but it is not the same situation and again, (even if subconsciously) feeling the need to rephrase means knowing not everyone would make the same decision with the current wording
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Takoluka@Takoluka1·
@txnoco @Review_bra No, I'm rephrasing the question because we have actual real world results for this one. The question is just a way of phrasing blood donation. Only 3% of qualified blood donors in the US donate blood. You're not getting to 51% blue worldwide. We're not even breaking 10%.
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yakra@txnoco·
@Takoluka1 @Review_bra rephrasing the question is admitting that not everyone would make the same decision as you if you asked it word for word.
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Takoluka@Takoluka1·
@txnoco @Review_bra There are two buttons. You press the red button, nothing happens. You press the blue button, you lose some blood, you get a juice box, and you help save someone who needs that blood. If not enough people press the blue button, there is a serious risk that some may die.
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yakra@txnoco·
@TheActMan_YT i mean yeah but is this the best example when theres "asha sharma, 60, CEO, Xbox" that make up to 90% of the video's context?
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Senhora RIVOTRIL🚩❤️
Senhora RIVOTRIL🚩❤️@SRivoltril·
Esse vídeo do Lindbergh Farias é sensacional 👏👏👏
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ziggy@ziggyrim·
"nós homens não podemos expressar emoções" meu filho tu grita até com a sua mãe
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yakra@txnoco·
@Logo_Daedalus saying blue pursues universal recognition is counterproductive since the vote is stated to be secret and a big part of resentment towards them is this false notion that they claim the moral high ground
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R.Сам 🦋🐏
R.Сам 🦋🐏@Logo_Daedalus·
Blue Red test only separates those who are willing to risk their lives in pursuit of universal recognition (blue) & human animals (red). Of course the human animal position is rationalized as “more rational, less risky” in some zero sum game theoretic calculus— & animals are always “rational”— what is “irrational” to the animal is the higher rationality of the Holy Spirit.
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yakra@txnoco·
@DeltaMapleCake @EditionA3 @ZSVIII @waitbutwhy i already said that gambling is a personal interpretation, not everyone will see it as a gamble, a vote is not a coinflip. yes it is valid to see as a gamble, it is invalid to say everyone also does. do you think anyone not capable of seeing it as a gamble deserve to survive?
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DMC273@DeltaMapleCake·
@txnoco @EditionA3 @ZSVIII @waitbutwhy You still fail to grasp how succeeding once at a gamble does not suddenly make it something other than a gamble. You simply either refuse to because you want to argue pointlessly, or you are genuinely too stupid to grasp what is being explained to you.
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Tim Urban
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy·
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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