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@MasterTimBlais first reply was ok for me but when i asked it to actually try to decode it, it probably considered a forbidden thought and got in trouble
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@tenobrus @ApriiSR apparently there is already pretty strong demand for ai-is-literally-president (even a slight majority among dems, at the time of posting)
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Jack@tracewoodgrains
Assume as well that there are safeguards against capability gaps. So eg if a competent human would look at an output and say "This is clearly an AI-specific failure state," we would not be handcuffed into following it. Make your choice:
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there's a difference between "hand over power in specific" eg our president is literally now an ai, and "power is in effect handed over", eg ai is sufficiently in charge of many systems and controls enough autonomously that if it chose to it could disempower us. imo we need the second to actually obtain the gains you describe in any reasonable timescale
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if u read ai 2040 and go "what the fuck do u mean handing over power to artificial intelligence in 15 years?? that's a nightmare too fuck that" then despite short term goal alignment we in fact fundamentally don't agree. causing the singularity is goal priority #2 as soon as possible after making sure it's safe.
Theo Jaffee@theojaffee
Key divide in the AI safety world is between people who want the glorious aligned ASI singularity future and people who just don’t want AI at all
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Some of these are not the tradeoffs you would expect, and it's kind of freaky. Why does candor trade off against execution?
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@QiaochuYuan @OneEyedAlpaca @gptbrooke @MaryJackalope @kenthecowboy_ @___frye @_chair @coladaclan @tautologer @Knipps @bungoman @sedatesnail we can be normal its just a groupchat on the main timeline that tags everyone
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@OneEyedAlpaca @gptbrooke @MaryJackalope @kenthecowboy_ @___frye @prerat @_chair @coladaclan @tautologer @Knipps @bungoman @sedatesnail wait what happens in a hellthread i don't think i've been in one since the bsky once that was all lewds
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IS THE SIM CLUSTER BACK
PLEASE TELL ME NIKITA BROUGHT THE SIM CLUSTER BACK
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@QiaochuYuan i guess one could check if formula babies have less unmetabolized terror of the female body
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fable:
> Melanie Klein's entire system starts from the proposition that the infant's first object is not the mother but the breast, that psychic life begins in the relationship to it — the "good breast" that feeds and the "bad breast" that withholds, split apart because the infant cannot yet bear that they're the same object — and that adult love, envy, gratitude, and creativity are all sediments of that first relation.
> Dorothy Dinnerstein's The Mermaid and the Minotaur (1976), whose central thesis is that because the mother is every human's first encounter with absolute power — the being who controls whether you eat, whether you're held, whether you exist, at a stage when you are "totally ludicrously absurdly powerless," as you put it — adult men manage the unmetabolized terror of that dependency by converting women from mother-objects into sex-objects, dominance and sexualization functioning specifically as defenses against re-experiencing infantile helplessness before the female body.
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we have a word for men "sexualizing" women but we don't have a word for men "motherizing" women even though it happens probably at least as often, in fact i wonder whether sexualizing women is a defense against the unbearable terror and powerlessness of motherizing them
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