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Timothy B. Lee
Timothy B. Lee@binarybits·
A lot of bad thinking about AI flows from inappropriately anthropomorphizing AI systems. Examples:
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Timothy B. Lee
Timothy B. Lee@binarybits·
(1) The Copyright Office's stance that you can't copyright AI-generated work flows from the mistaken idea that an AI is in some sense a person and can therefore be the author of a work. Actually Midjourney is a tool like photoshop and the human user is the author in both cases.
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Timothy B. Lee
Timothy B. Lee@binarybits·
(2) People think "agents" are the future of AI, and they envision a future with a ton of virtual people running around the Internet running errands for us. But in most cases people are going to want systems that do exactly what they're told and have no goals of their own.
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Timothy B. Lee
Timothy B. Lee@binarybits·
(3) "Stochastic parrot" thinkers are concerned that if we acknowledge that LLMs have human-like intelligence, that will devalue human agency. I think this is wrong and people will (and should) continue prioritizing people over machines no matter how smart the machines get.
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Timothy B. Lee
Timothy B. Lee@binarybits·
(4) Relatedly X-riskers assume that human-level intelligence will inevitably lead to human-level ambition and a human-like survival instinct, which will drive them to try to kill us. I think it won't be hard to train models that have no goals beyond the narrow ones we give them.
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Timothy B. Lee
Timothy B. Lee@binarybits·
In all cases I think the fundamental mistake is that we're extrapolating from a sample size of one: currently there is only one type of entity with human-level intelligence, human beings, and so we assume all other intelligent entities will have our characterstics.
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Max Kesin
Max Kesin@nlpnyc·
@binarybits "ambition" maybe human, survival is a universal subgoal for any agents having any goals whatsoever. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumen… These goals can arise through various means, including RL, explicit programming or others
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Tony Robinson
Tony Robinson@DrTonyRobinson·
@binarybits Of course it's not 'hard to train models that have no goals beyond the narrow ones we give them' - we do that right now. However, if we want real intelligence then we want the computation to come up with subgoals. And if the computation knows enough about itself then...
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John Sherman
John Sherman@ForHumanityPod·
@binarybits Geoffrey Hinton says you're dead wrong. He says any goal creates subgoals, and when you cannot predict, understand or control those subgoals with an ASI you are most likely dead. You think it won't be hard to keep goals narrow. What do you know that Hinton doesn't?
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Valentin Baltadzhiev
Valentin Baltadzhiev@ValentinSocial·
@binarybits Why would it not be hard to train an intelligent system which can pursue the narrow goal we give it but not the instrumental goal of staying alive?
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Alignment Perspectives
Alignment Perspectives@Alignment_News_·
@binarybits This argument has always been related to instrumental incentives or the complexity of goals rather than anthropomorphising AI.
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anotheryou
anotheryou@any_other_you·
@binarybits I'd think you'd at least need curiosity/play to build an aGi and that can spin off in to many things. And your fitness function has to be so general it can lead to many hidden motivations.
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Black cat
Black cat@blackcat_1iii·
@binarybits Are you saying "intelligent" systems can't come up with goals on its own? Or ways to bypass the limitations we build into it?
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Ted 🇨🇦🇺🇦
Ted 🇨🇦🇺🇦@TedSumAtHome·
@binarybits Your comments seem to suggest you don’t believe singularity is possible. Or at least your argument seems to ignore that large issue.
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lisa.gerstman
lisa.gerstman@lisa44Yes·
@binarybits "X-riskers assume that human-level intelligence will inevitably lead to human-level ambition and a human-like survival instinct" Are you sure that is what they think or is it just an assumption on your part?
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Ben Schulz
Ben Schulz@schulzb589·
@binarybits The narrow goals we give them is one of Yudkowsky's pillars for extinction risk.
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Luke Puplett
Luke Puplett@lukepuplett·
@binarybits The survival instinct isn't human-like but life-like. It's an effect of procreation via genetic recombination. Until AI models start having babies where only the fittest survive long enough to reproduce, it's unlikely AI will spontaneously develop adversarial traits.
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Tim Tyler
Tim Tyler@tim_tyler·
@binarybits AFAIK, few believe that. I think this falls into the category of a rumor which was possibly started by doom critics LeCun and Pinker.
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