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@Bunga65463765 @SplendidSneb Needed him for what? They hated the adventures.
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@SplendidSneb I kinda hope they all feel bad now that Caine gone & realise how much they needed him
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@AijemT @kingsean70 @SplendidSneb I think both can be true. The transcript literally shows Kinger's console is hacked, but in the end, it was Kinger's misinput that killed him.
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@kingsean70 @SplendidSneb They literally focused when he accidentally pressed the Del button without noticing, it's there on screen on full focus on camera.
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@Jade_shitpost @curryroux08 They did, they told Caine what they wanted, and he did listen to their ideas for a while, but then he stopped because he didn't like that he's not the one that comes up with the adventure. He had the chance to make it right but he sacrificed it for his ego.
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@DNAzfar1 @curryroux08 Without anthropomorphizing him, its sad. As time does not = growing up for a AI
A AI needs to be taught. They can even be broken inside of them due to messed up code.
However if we do hold him accountable, then the others should be too for ignoring his feelings / struggles
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the amount of maternal love i feel for caine is ruining my life he loves the humans in his own way and fundamentally just cannot understand why they hate him. His little wait when he realised their deleting him was so heartbreaking he was just throwing a tantrum :(
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Miracle ✨️ TADC EP 8 hjsakldfhl SPOILERS BE AWARE@novicuswriterus
Leaving this here
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@Jade_shitpost @curryroux08 Bro, he stopped doing those adventures because the idea wasn't his. And no one asked for a more mature adventure.
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@DNAzfar1 @curryroux08 See, this is a outright lie
He did try
He just did not understand
They wanted calmer adventurers? Burger flipping
They wanted more realistic adult themes? He did that too
Him not understanding because no one taught him is sad.
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Heartwarming, muslims are integrating and adopting western culture
Ntukirate ⚒️@menyibyawe0
OMG 😱
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@VicTheRabiesRat I don't see conditional love as true love, not this form at the very least. If you agree, then this argument can conclude here.
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@DNAzfar1 I didn't say it was unconditional? It's conditional and unhealthy, that's not the point
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Caine’s mind is absolutely fascinating because YES he was intentionally torturing them physically and psychologically for days on end and YES he STILL loved them and wanted them to love him back more than anything TO THE VERY END.
#TheAmazingDigitalCircus (🧵)



Delihar 🌈☁️ TADC 8 SPOILERS@deliharrr
Wait you guys ACTUALLY think that Caine doesn’t love the humans anymore because of episode 8??? I thought it was a joke.
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@VicTheRabiesRat @Ad_Astra_simul @deliharrr Based on my observation, not really. It's not unconditional love, at least. He gives only because he wants validation, but he never tries to accommodate the cast. He mainly just forces them to do things they don't want and complains when they hate it. He doesn't give them agency.
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@DNAzfar1 @Ad_Astra_simul @deliharrr Oh I'm not saying his actions are justified, he fucked up big time and that shit is not going to be easy to forgive or make up for if he comes back somehow. My point is that he does love them, and he's doing all he can to show it and to get some reciprocation, it just doesnt work
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@DARTHDIMMBOL @deliharrr There's so much more to be done in adventure than just an idea. The idea is only a fraction of an adventure; the rest is all up for Caine to decide, and there's so much creativity to be had in that department to. This is the least Caine can do to give the cast some agency.
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@DNAzfar1 @deliharrr He's a creative AI though. He can't change that. His purpose is to create ideas, if he stops and starts using the teams ideas, he'll has essentially failed his purpose for existing.
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@wholyv No, there's a limit on how big an atom can get. As the atom size grows, the nucleus becomes larger and larger, and at some point, the proton will start to overcome the strong nuclear force from the neutron. At that point, the nucleus will collapse, and there's no atom.
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@VicTheRabiesRat @Ad_Astra_simul @deliharrr I mean, humans have feelings. And we hold people accountable when they make irrational decisions. I don't know why AI should be given a pass, especially when they are in a decision-making position.
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@DNAzfar1 @Ad_Astra_simul @deliharrr Well yes he's narcissistic but being an AI doesn't make him any more rational than a human, I mean have you seen our "AI"s? And he also has the complicating factor of feelings, which make rationality harder
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@MagmaSlasher @aratakaswife Maybe you're right, the show hasn't concluded and Gooseworx can actually mean something like you are thinking right now.
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@aratakaswife What did she actually mean by this, though? I really can't imagine any kind of conclusion other than the show going "the real meaning of life was the friends we made along the way". I feel like this show has put too much effort into being thought provoking to end like that.
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// tadc spoilers
irrefutably lines up with goose's intended message about finding meaning in a stagnant life
Shadao@rex_shadao
@aratakaswife The ultimate horror comes for the players when they realize their memories as humans were all fake. They were always AI programs from the start. Not only could they not leave the circus, they were no different from Caine. AI beings in Hell, reaching for Heaven.
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Even with his promise of always being with her, all his support, all his love... Queenie gave up.
Abstraction being a metaphor for suicide makes this whole situation so tragic. Not only for Queenie. Everyone.
Every person that stepped in the circus killed themselves.
°•✨ TADC EP 8 SPOILERS!!!@JustAnimaniac
The worst thing about Queenie's abstraction is Kinger blaming himself for months/years, not only for involving his wife in this mess, for his love not being enough to stop her from ending it all. And even with all his knowledge, there was nothing he could ever do to save her.
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@nisrine65210 I'm not falling for a narcissist's trap. Caine had a chance to make it right with the cast but he outright refused because he doesn't like that the cast has control over their adventure.
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@borealstarlight @deliharrr It's not such a foreign concept in AI either. You can easily input an image on Nano Banana and ask it to expand the image.
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@borealstarlight @deliharrr He doesn't have to make it 100% himself. Even if the idea wasn't his, the adventure is still 99% made by himself. And if he can customize torture (based on what caused them most pain), I'm 100% sure he can customize adventure.
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@borealstarlight @deliharrr And in theory, he should have. Given that he can make a sentient AI (Gummigoo), I don't think it's beyond him to modify his code.
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@DNAzfar1 @deliharrr But, if he had the ability to change his own code besides memory, to change his purpose, maybe he could’ve learned
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@borealstarlight @deliharrr I think loving wouldn't be such a foreign concept for Caine. All he has to do is customize his adventure based on the cast's likes and dislikes, or continue making adventure from the suggestion box.
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@DNAzfar1 @deliharrr Everyone tries to anthropomorphize caine and hold him to the standards of a normal moral agent he isn’t. He’s an AI, an emotionally complex one, but still just a tool with a goal of entertaining that he cannot by his nature breach from. He doesn’t know how to love like they do.
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