Disciple Of Faust
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@DiscipleOfFaust No you just piss and shit about how everyone else is wrong and you’re right
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@holdenberry No, I don't piss and shit about how "the Hollywood movie-film totally agrees with me and not those meanies I don't like!"
You look ridiculous
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@DiscipleOfFaust Right, instead I should just be like you and jerk myself off over how films are politically neutral and everyone but me is stupid for interpreting meaning from art
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony I get this, but some people are lodged in echo-chambers and will double down on outright wrong or stupid ideas because no one will disagree with them
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony Twitter algorithmically adjusts its content based on what you interact with, by the by. Replying to the OP means you're more likely to see takes like this, which will fuel your belief that you are being shouted down. Dont let a math problem give you schizophrenia.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony I'll continue to call people stupid for trying to claim vague concepts and ideals as 'only their side's virtures' because I know it's their politic to do so, while delegitimising anything and anyone else's thoughts and opinions.
Also
>Conservative
Lol. Lmao
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony Nobody can yell you how to enjoy anything. You see what you let yourself see, nobody can turn off the film for you. There are 8.3 billion people, like 500 million English speakers, you're going to see takes you disagree with, especially if you're conservative.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony I didn't think it was 'antiwoke' to begin with, I just guessed it didn't browbeat the audience about random current social issues. I just dislike whiny communists telling people how to enjoy films.
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony If you concede that the film isn't antiwoke, then you dont actually have a bone to pick with the OP outside them slagging conservatives. x.com/Neurolimal/sta…
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony That's a pretty shitty read, personally. His replies have been pointedly about the fact that you cant call a movie antiwoke when the conceit of the plot's dilemma is that climate change is real. Can you confirm whether or not US conservatives still consider climate research woke?
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony I'm glad you're more reasonable than I first thought. I'd debate more about the nuclear thing but we really are getting wildly off topic, what was the original point I was trying to wriggle out from?
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony I'm denying that it's a common consensus across environmentalist groups and parties to be anti-nuclear. More importantly, I'm denying your attempt to squirm around the original conversation.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony I think we're loosing eachother here, I'd call that geo-engineering and terraforming to change the climate. 'Climate change' in the 'political' and real-life context is about how WE are changing the planet to our/everything's detriment.
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony In both the novel and a cut scene from the film, they nuke Antarctica to release greenhouse gasses in a desperate bid to warm the earth. a plan that only makes logical sense in a universe where climate change is real.
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@holdenberry @MrChees43339559 @CrazyWeeMonkey @Augustine_peony I'm telling you you need to stop jerking yourselves off over how films would actually agree with your political view and lording it over people. It's weird. Stop it
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@DiscipleOfFaust @MrChees43339559 @CrazyWeeMonkey @Augustine_peony So you’re agreeing with me that climate issues can in fact be politicized? Meaning the metaphor between climate change and astrophage in PHM holds up? Thanks glad we could have this talk.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony Are you denying that there are strong multi-national organisations and groups interested in changing how we all live and function in our day to day? What?
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony And that would be a silly argument, both because that presumes an international unity of policy across nations as well as a misunderstanding of agency, but more importantly its objectively not why conservatives deny climate change. That's your own personal compromise.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony And does the 'conceit of the plots dilemma' CONFIRM 'climate change' or is it a crisis that affects planets and their weather/climates? I'm not saying climate change isn't real, but sick of idiots screaming about conservitards over a fucking movie.
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony That's a pretty shitty read, personally. His replies have been pointedly about the fact that you cant call a movie antiwoke when the conceit of the plot's dilemma is that climate change is real. Can you confirm whether or not US conservatives still consider climate research woke?
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@MikeDrucker @CrazyWeeMonkey @Augustine_peony You think that this is an own but just chucking money at the "wall of science" doesn't just make you gooder at science. Declaring everything you want and agree with as "scientific and factual" doesn't make it right. And it should be obvious EVERYONE ignores the science they hate.
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @Augustine_peony Out of curiosity, which “side” has heavily cut science and education funding and has increasingly promoted anti-science viewpoints?
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony No no, you just talked about how everything is very political and politically charged, but these Marvel films are now outright thoughtless? Maybe just a trope? Is there a difference between the calibre of films from then, before and now?
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony We had over a decade of Marvel dominance, a series of films that prides itself on being thoughtless except for the vaguest of tropes. What's actually happened is that you've grown up, and you dont like how adults talk about movies on longform websites.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony I just did what you asked, my read is that he's just bitching about conservitards (everyone but him) and calling them liars. And then he starts complaining about the climate and how its their fault. The guy is just a mong, and I'm calling him out on it, so why don't you leave?
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony The ad in the OP is saying it's an antiwoke film. The OP has given reasons why it supports 'woke' political subjects. You're the outlier getting irrationally mad over how someone reads a movie. If you disagreee with their read, leave or give your own.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony No, but I know they're posting slop click-bait. I'd assume they're trying to make a point that the film doesn't try and address "hard hitting issues and social commentary", instead focusing on an enjoyable movie experience. Everyone is sick of Holywood preach-flicks.
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony do you think calling something anti-woke is absent any politics
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@holdenberry @MrChees43339559 @CrazyWeeMonkey @Augustine_peony Damn, I'm sure glad there aren't OTHER people being excellent examples of hypocrites blinded by their own ideology on certain topics (specifically regarding the climate) Now leets make that wind farm instead of an icky nuculer power plant :)
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@DiscipleOfFaust @MrChees43339559 @CrazyWeeMonkey @Augustine_peony What you’re saying would be a much stronger point if there weren’t real life examples of crises (specifically climate related) that are not being solved because certain sides of the political spectrum refuse to acknowledge or solve it.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony Your political meaning is an extreme reach that distracts from the original point, thats all its for. These people demand that you find and discuss politics in EVERYTHING so they can make their own agendas un-escapable and all-encompassing.
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony You asked me to find political meaning in something, and because I'm not an easily offended oaf who prides himself on knowing jack shit, I did exactly that. Genuinely absurd to balk at someone meeting your own challenge. Engage or run away.
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony Yes everything is very political and important, that's why you need to like my film for the reasons I say otherwise you're not politicking correctly. This is very important to my politics.
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony It's a facebook meme that uses someone else's dog, and is now used ironically by softboys. You could use it as a diving board for discussing modern comedy, explore how much facebook humor is already ironic, the transformative nature of memes, and of course, how dadaist memes-
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@Neurolimal @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony I mean, you do because on another post you've started philosophically-waxing and moaning about the very deep political and cultural impression of a fucking .png I saved. Please write about how profound the amount of dust found in your room is different to the amount found in mine
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@DiscipleOfFaust @CrazyWeeMonkey @MeatyPriest @HamburgerHinde2 @Augustine_peony It's not proof of botted likes that not every post has a shitload of people arguing in the comments. That's just you following edgelords. Most people never click on tweets.
I dont care about how mad the OP's made you.
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@holdenberry @MrChees43339559 @CrazyWeeMonkey @Augustine_peony No, they're ignoring every other comparison to ham-fist their own ideas and agendas. You can see other people arguing that 'working together towards a common goal against a crisis' is not at all unique to one political group. Now your being difficult.
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@DiscipleOfFaust @MrChees43339559 @CrazyWeeMonkey @Augustine_peony I didn’t refute anything. The “man-made” portion of climate change doesn’t take away from the overall metaphor of PHM. Ignoring every other comparison just makes you willfully obtuse.
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