Supremely Okay Takes

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Supremely Okay Takes

@VeryOkayTakes

🇬🇧 Mostly great takes. たまに日本語翻訳する…下手なのに ⚜️Sisters of Battle best girls⚜️ Helping Eve from Stellar Blade haul that junk in her trunk. Tachy is queen.

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1h

@MJonesDSN @luckynosu @raviollius It's hilarious that the country that produced One Piece identify more with the evil people who can only produce rules and regulations more than the heroes who forge their own path, say no to arbitrary laws and take justice into their own hands. They'd have Luffy executed. 😢

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Michael Jones@MJonesDSN·2h

@luckynosu @raviollius piracy was necessary first as it created the western fandom and market for the japanse to then sell their products to, without it there would have been no market in the first place.

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Nosu （らきのす）@luckynosu·11h

「海賊版のおかげで日本のコンテンツが人気になった」という発想自体がすでに「盗人猛々しい（ぬすっとたけだけしい）」のですよ。日本のコンテンツの供給をおとなしく待つことができず、あさましくも泥棒をしてしまいました、と恥じるのならばまだ理解できます。

Blast@Blast792

@Ao691zbroUHYbXT @luckynosu Garde à l'esprit que les animes/Manga sont devenu populaire grâce à des fan sub / site pirate pour la plupart, sans ça, pas d'explosion sûr le marché occidental, plus jeune, j'ai moi même du consommé du pirate parce que pas d'alternative, et j'ai aucune honte à le dire.

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1h

@luckynosu @raviollius Would you say that you'd prefer to have 100% of nothing, or 50% of something? The natural laws of supply and demand dictate that where there is a large enough demand for a product, that need must be fulfilled. The harm comes in trying to subvert these basic natural laws.

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Nosu （らきのす）@luckynosu·5h

@raviollius 「功罪」という意味がわかりますか？何かメリットがあったからといって罪がないわけではないのですよ。「功」があったからといって罪が罷免されるわけではないのです。難しいですがわかりますか？

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1h

@s1llXNgMEjFwTvV @magozone23 Laws should be secondary to morals, and it shouldn't even be close. Laws ignored due to moral judgement are usually justly ignored. Blindly following laws that infringe upon morals is usually deeply immoral. This should be a wake up moment for Japanese companies to be better.

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いちまさ@s1llXNgMEjFwTvV·19h

@magozone23 宗教で道徳学ぶ人達だから法律は二の次なんだと思ってる

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駒井　志津馬　（二代目コノミィ@magozone23·22h

法に従うという当たり前の価値観くらい共有できてほしいんですけどねえ？

World X@WorldXDev

@magozone23 Sorry Japanese oomf, gonna have to disagree with you on this one; that aside, man, why is it so hard for Western and Japanese people to come to an agreement here? I feel something very important is missing on both sides, it cannot be as simple as "the other side is wrong", right?

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·3h

@lesbianbrig Mercy and Kiri are the greediest characters in the game, they're like pigs at the trough pushing out others as they feast on all the cosmetics and collaborations. Ana simply isn't that, it's not hard to reconcile.

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yaz@lesbianbrig·23h

a lot of the hate mercy gets is simply bc shes mercy and everyone denied it back then but look at what’s happening now

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yaz@lesbianbrig·23h

this looks so good I love it but im not seeing half the backlash mercy got when she received a second mythic

Naeri X 나에리@OverwatchNaeri

Overwatch Ra: Ana Mythic Skin Scheduled for Mid-Season Release ☀️ The Ra Ana Mythic Skin will be released in the mid-season of #Overwatch Season 2 🦅 This is Ana's second Mythic skin.

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·3h

@PO2qv @Minervamineralp @kyuusyuha_001 The implication is that the company benefits from withholding the discontinued game and that somehow this serves the creative forces, the customers and the artistic intent of the game itself. I see nobody served here other than greedy shareholders who value nothing but the IP.

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うj@PO2qv·21h

@VeryOkayTakes @Minervamineralp @kyuusyuha_001 私たちが著作権を守っているのは遵法意識もあるが制作者へのリスペクトの面が大きい。それに企業に奉仕というが海賊版によってその企業に利益がなければ続編や新作が作るという事もできない。法律を守ることでこちらにもその企業からの新しい商品が提供されるという利益があるから法律を守っている

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旧守派@kyuusyuha_001·1d

外国人の海賊版擁護を見て「ここまで遵法精神を持ち合わせていないのか」と驚愕してる

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·3h

@koko971409 @yuka_9324 @LCbutter Crunchyroll came years and years after fansubs first started. Originally they were on VHS and subs made using the Famicom titler. Industry and innovation can't always succeed through conventional channels, but the laws of supply and demand should always be met.

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ココ@koko971409·16h

@VeryOkayTakes @yuka_9324 @LCbutter Crunchyrollの事言ってます？海賊版を擁護する人達の決まり文句の一つだよね。でもCrunchyrollは特殊な条件が重なって成功した例だから他の海賊版全体と同列に語ることは出来ないんだよ。例外事例を一般化して、数少ない功績を構造的な害悪の免罪符にしないでください。

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LCバター@LCbutter·1d

海外では「売ってくれないんだから海賊版に手を出すのは正当な行いだ」みたいなカスの考えが蔓延ってるって本当か？「金払うって言ってるのにセックスしてくれないからレイプする」みたいな蛮族の考えじゃん。恥知らず過ぎるなー

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·18h

@DHKLOK @Pugnus_Simia @magozone23 They think the company should be able to dictate every aspect of interaction with the game. The culture of adherence to rules and regulations runs so deep that even if the rules don't stand up to scrutiny or reality, they'll still stand by them, because they are the rules.

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Lock@DHKLOK·21h

@Pugnus_Simia @magozone23 Wait you can download it??? It's literally just the server connection that's not available? So these JP posters are just compaining about a complete reverse engineering. That's not even piracy lol

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駒井　志津馬　（二代目コノミィ@magozone23·1d

権利者の受けられるはずだった利益を侵害してますわアウトです、どう言い繕おうが例えば海賊版で楽しんだヤツってのは、日本企業に本来の代金に近しい金額を寄付したりしてますの？無料で勝手に楽しんでるんでしょ？それは恥ずべき事、盗っ人側だけが利益享受して企業や作者には一切プラスがない

Qotsu Sadon@Qoruan

@magozone23 I will disagree with you on this one. If something can't be bought than using it is not stealing. Digital content doesn't work like physical one, when it copied no one is losing anything unless there's profit to be made, but when restrictions in place, there's no profit to begin.

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@passonco @syosin_kai People still buy the DRM free games, despite them being easily able to be pirated. It's not about cost, it's about providing the best and most worthwhile service. A company should understand that providing service to customers should come first. This is SQEX failure completely.

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ぱソんこ@passonco·1d

@syosin_kai GOGは「うちのプラットフォームで売るゲームはすべてDRmフリーですよ！」とアピっているのと、「新品を定価で買うよりも時間をおいてバグ修正とセールを待った方がコスパいい」みたいな話はどちらもあるかなあと

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初心カイ@syosin_kai·1d

もし「サービスが終了したものは企業の損害にならないのでコピーは悪いことではないよね」という意識が一般化するとですね、「1円もサービスに金を使わず、早期サービス終了を願い、終了と同時にハックしてただで利用する」という行為が消費者的に最適解になってしまうんですよね

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@syosin_kai You're viewing it from the perspective of a zero sum game. Many people want to and do support the production of new games and content, whilst also understanding that without doujin content and fan supported services, the thing they love will die off.

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@koko971409 @yuka_9324 @LCbutter Japanese anime did not exist overseas as it was seen as unprofitable, until the huge international market was revealed through piracy and unauthorised fansubs. Not only was it the opposite of what you're claiming, piracy actually created the conditions for the market to thrive.

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ココ@koko971409·1d

@yuka_9324 @LCbutter 海外展開には多額の費用とリスクがかかるのに、海賊版の存在によって市場データが歪み、収益性が低く見積もられてしまうことがあるんですよね。その結果、「儲からない市場」と判断されやすくなり、海外展開が進みにくくなるという悪循環が生まれてるから、そう簡単に変わるのは難しい気がします。

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@LCbutter You're confusing copyright law with natural law. 1000 years ago copyright wouldn't and couldn't exist, yet barbarians would be put to death for that crime. Conflating these two things shows a grave moral failure on your part, and you talk about shameless?

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@Minervamineralp @kyuusyuha_001 These laws are not morals. You are not following a moral direction, you're blindly adhering to laws, laws that don't even serve you, your culture or country. It only serves the corporation. This sense of morality is being perverted into blind loyalty for a corporate entity.

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ミネラルーダ@趣味北の国の東より@Minervamineralp·1d

@kyuusyuha_001 もしかして日本って世界一の民度なのでは…？それ以外はクソなのでは…？と驕ってしまいそうになる

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@puuuu_ch @BourgeoisRadley If the game were pirated in another galaxy, where SQEX had no idea it even existed, would that be wrong? Laws should exist to protect people (before anything else) and to serve the culture and country. Does it not feel wrong to you that nobody is hurt, yet you're told it's wrong?

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ぷうちゃん🐰🦪@VTuber@puuuu_ch·1d

@BourgeoisRadley すごく単純で日本の法律を犯して欲しくないというだけだよ。でも、もう遊ぶことが出来ないゲームを何とかして遊びたいという気持ちは理解できるよ。いい方法があるといいんだけどね。

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ぷうちゃん🐰🦪@VTuber@puuuu_ch·1d

話題のNieR、海外と日本の価値観が違いすぎるな。サ終したならもう遊べないのが当然の日本人と、遊ぶ方法が無いのなら海賊版を作ればいい！遊ばせない企業が悪い！っていう発想にはびっくりしちゃった。わたしが思うより、国の隔たりって大きいものなのかも。

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@sasori_yokuneru Laws are for people who respect them. Games are human culture and art, art is above petty laws. If the laws do not serve the art and the people the art was made for, then the laws are wrong.

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バブルの頂点タウリン2000mg背面跳び@sasori_yokuneru·1d

NieR Reincarnation プライベートサーバーの問題ってさ、日本以外のほとんどの人が著作権法とか商標法、不正競争防止法っていう法的概念を知らないし問題だと思ってないらしい。彼らは義賊の素晴らしい行為だと言っていて、興味深いんだよね。文化の違いだよ。

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@zettonhatuoi3 @NoxelGinOokami They would never give up a single grain of sand if they thought it might affect their accounts by ¥1. The creators and artists don't have the freedom to give access to their works anyway, the rights holders are the ones and they aren't creatives. They only know greed.

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戸愚呂33%@NIKKEイベント情報@zettonhatuoi3·1d

@NoxelGinOokami クリエイター及び権利者に許可を取ってやるなら良いと思います(´・ω・`)

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戸愚呂33%@NIKKEイベント情報@zettonhatuoi3·1d

このニーアリィンカネのコピー問題、一生燃えてるわね(´・ω・`)高い文化の壁を感じるほとんどの日本人からしたらマジでただの泥棒にしか見えないんだけれど、一部の海外の人からしたら芸術を守る保護活動だそうな(´・ω・`)マジで言ってるなら相互理解に100年かかりそう

Altret 🦔@Altret_KnW

NieR Reincarnation ya es parcialmente JUGABLE gracias a un servidor privado creado por fans para fans. Disfrutad vuestra estancia en La Jaula y mucho amor y apoyo para estos héroes por favor 👇🏻 github.com/Walter-Sparrow…

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@tinjao_rosu_ @Alison_is_lost This is true, but from a moral perspective, do you not think Konami have taken his original work through the legal process? By all rights as the named creator throughout, it feels wrong that Konami can just denigrate his work, turning it into little more than a pachislot brand.

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ちんじゃおろーす/青椒肉絲@tinjao_rosu_·1d

@VeryOkayTakes @Alison_is_lost 小島秀夫に関しては契約上の問題。

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Alison 🇺🇦🇵🇸@Alison_is_lost·1d

Even if Nier Reincarnation was legally available, pirating it still wouldn't be immoral, by the way

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@tinjao_rosu_ @Alison_is_lost There exist provisions for what is called "fair use". These need to be expanded massively. Publicly abandoned works should be stated as being supported if they intend to republish them, this should be the standard. The ownership of the culture should belong with the fans though.

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ちんじゃおろーす/青椒肉絲@tinjao_rosu_·1d

@VeryOkayTakes @Alison_is_lost それを正式に伝えるなり要望を粘り強く出すとかやり方は他にあるよね？違法なことをやるんじゃなくてちゃんと伝えなよ。権利を持ってる人間が発表するもしないも権利を持ってる人間や企業の自由だ。

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@tinjao_rosu_ @Alison_is_lost Copyright as it exists is evil. It actively tries to stop small creators and takes control away from creatives. Look at how Konami have abused Metal Gear. That belongs to Hideo Kojima by any standards, but thanks to copyright, they have stolen it from him and from the world.

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ちんじゃおろーす/青椒肉絲@tinjao_rosu_·1d

@VeryOkayTakes @Alison_is_lost あなたが著作権は悪と言い切るなら無くすべきものなのじゃないの？少なくとも日本では企業に守られてるクリエイターもいっぱいいるし企業に属していないクリエイターもいっぱいいるけど？

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@tinjao_rosu_ @Alison_is_lost This is a theoretical damage though. If SQEX released NieR Reincarnation as a manga, anime, stand-alone app or as a live action play, they would sell as many copies as they could make. The choice to not do this and not announce that they are doing so is on them.

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ちんじゃおろーす/青椒肉絲@tinjao_rosu_·1d

@VeryOkayTakes @Alison_is_lost もしサービス終了したゲームをストーリーの部分だけ後から売る予定があったのにリソースとお金が海賊版の対処に使われて出なくなりましたってなったら悪いのは誰？この場合誰が被害を被るの？それは企業もクリエイターもだけどそれ以上に正式に遊びたかったファンだよ

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Supremely Okay Takes@VeryOkayTakes·1d

@IIIHUSKIII @gamer13583316 @8_7_10 Their IP is more than just the name, it's their reputation. If an individual creator makes a "Mario" game, does it replace Nintendo's? Look at Palworld. Gamefreak and The Pokemon Company have gotten lazy and produce derivative slop. Competition is good for the customers.

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Name cannot be blank@IIIHUSKIII·1d

@VeryOkayTakes @gamer13583316 @8_7_10 If Nintendo never make another Mario game, they kind of do. They have no control over the physical games they sold to people already, but they absolutely do not need to allow anyone else access to their IP after the fact.

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HA710@8_7_10·1d

これ叩くのあまりにもムーブメントが大企業の犬すぎるだろ現在その国で売られているゲームを割るのはアホだが，現状その国はおろか世界中ですでにサービスを終了しているゲームであれば，別にミラーを作ってもその企業が金銭的損失を被るわけではないんだから……

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