@transitive_bs Oops 🫣 At least I can assure you the decision wasn't made lightly
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Jacob Wenger
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Jacob Wenger
@_jwngr
Building beautiful software @Notion, formerly @Shortwave @Firebase @Google @Microsoft
San Francisco, CA Beigetreten Ekim 2011
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@_jwngr lol i was just coming here to complain about this for react-notion-x 😂
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The internal discourse around naming this new block `header_4` or `sub_sub_sub_header` was my favorite part of this launch. Choosing names that won't shoot you in the foot in a decade is hard. Don't let perfect stop you from shipping.
Notion@NotionHQ
Heading 4 is finally here 😤 The years of “just bold the text and pretend” are over. Rolling out now.
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@DoneganiJosh Because naming is hard and our forebears did not think far enough into the future
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@_jwngr What was the reason for not renaming them header_2 and header_3?
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LLMs unearthing the fact that the average dev is not very good at code review and generally just LGTMs it most of the time
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@krzyzanowskim Not yet, will give it a try! Looks interesting. Keep cooking.
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Marcin Krzyzanowski@krzyzanowskim
Over the last few days I shipped 2 major features that would shock the pants off 99% of Electron apps out there: 1. Multiple windows – I just love it. I can keep all sessions in tabs or separate windows and lay out my work on the desktop however I want. x.com/krzyzanowskim/… 2. UI session restoration – this feels so natural. I can close the app and relaunch it at the exact moment where I left off. enjoy! and let me know if you like it!
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I'm in search of the best agentic development environment. I have recently tried:
- Claude Code (CLI + app)
- Codex (CLI + app)
- OpenCode (CLI + app)
- Intent
- T3Code
- Amp
- cmux
- Superset
- Polyscope
- Constellagent
What else you got?
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Me trying to understand the Vite / Void ecosystem naming. But really, Vite+ looks great and it's awesome that it is open source.
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id add 49agents to that list if you want a canvas-based approach. its an infinite 2D surface with terminals, git graphs, and file editing across multiple machines. not for everyone but if you run multiple agents and lose track of which session is doing what, the visual layout helps
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@tanishqk Some cool ideas are coming out of the AI code review wars, but too slow and costly right now for the realtime code pairing I really want
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@tanishqk Very much agree on the last sentence. Lots of focus on multi-agent orchestration, which is great. But I need help understanding diffs. I want to interface w/ agents at the type system, but am limited to code or chat.
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The problem with vibe-coding and why it breaks down eventually is this:
If you don't understand the code architecture, you will eventually ask the agent to do something that you expect to be easy, but in reality, is actually very hard.
The agent won't flag this to you - it will just bulldoze its way through the codebase, violating abstractions, writing way too much code, and making a mess.
In the end, your original request *may* work but you've introduced 10 other regressions, and now the performance of any other agent on the codebase drastically deteriorates.
So at some level, you need an understanding of the architecture of the project in order to sic' agents on it.
That being said, reading the code should not have to be the only way to understand that (even though it historically has been).
Non-technical PMs have been doing this forever, using the engineers to understand what's hard and how the product is built.
We need better tools to visually explore and understand codebase architecture without having to read code.
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Support open source! And urge your employer to directly support the tools you build with and rely on. @brian_lovin has been a huge proponent of this internally. Kudos to him for getting people paid.
Brian Lovin@brian_lovin
More of this in the coming weeks 🫡
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Notion is just a TypeScript-ESLint wrapper
TypeScript-ESLint@tseslint
Thanks to @NotionHQ for the $6,000 donation! Amazing to see companies supporting their dependencies in such a big way 🎉
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Dashboards are a natural evolution of Notion's "blocks within blocks" system design, just applied to database views. Right now you can only nest other views within a dashboard. But what if you could add other blocks in there too? 🤔
Notion@NotionHQ
Introducing Dashboards. The bird's-eye view your databases needed. Boards, tables, charts, timelines — all in one clear, glanceable DB view. Rolling out now.
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Many things about building and shipping software are hard for reasons other than “writing code is hard”
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Buckle up for the @NotionHQ dev tools arc
Brian Lovin@brian_lovin
Yes here is my 10 minute breathless rant about why I'm so excited about Notion Workers + Custom Agents... Context: I spent this afternoon building a custom agent to help me manage Shiori (a side project I shipped last weekend). I gave the custom agent everything it needs to understand what's happening in my product (email, log drain, sentry alerts, stripe payments, etc) and to do work on my behalf (access to coding agents). In an afternoon of tinkering, this agent can: - Diagnose bug reports proactively by looking through past email conversations, system logs, and database records - Draft replies to user questions with the correct answer based on past email threads, or help me proactively reach out to churning paid users - Self-construct a database of feature requests with an understanding of who is requesting the feature and how they're using the product today - Answer any question I have about how people use the app and what I should be thinking about next - Initiate Claude Code workflows to open PRs proactively in the background when someone sends a bug report or feature request This custom agent is now my "Side Project Chief of Staff" (I don't really know what a chief of staff does but this sounds right). I didn't write a single line of the worker code because I didn't need to: models are so good that I can link to the Workers readme, yap my desired outcome into a microphone, and I get a super-personal and highly-capable AI agent out the other side. So fucking cool. The future is now! I'm excited to see what everyone makes.
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