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Art vs Machine

@ericwayneart

Artist, philosopher, fool

Deep Space Beigetreten Mayıs 2013
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Art vs Machine@ericwayneart·
@PhysInHistory Absolutely. Consciousness is #1 on that list. Subjectively irrefutable, but science can't find it or prove it exists.
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Physics In History
Physics In History@PhysInHistory·
Can there be truths that are scientifically unreachable but still real? ✍️
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Zach Fuller@zachtothefuller·
Some AI defenders/rage baiters still don't get it. I don't care if it's "only going to get better" and "people won't be able to tell" If I know your production uses gen AI in any way, it's as good as garbage to me. You cut corners to get to the finish line and you're a loser
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@esjesjesj If you think a real artist can't use AI to make real art that is original, complex, difficult, and time-consuming, that's your own rather staggering lack of imagination.
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@MichaelG_3D You were doing so well with the first sentence. But real artists can transfer their skills to AI, and if AI stops, we can make art out of milk cartons. All I'm getting from you is that you aren't creative enough to make quality art using AI. That's OK. But don't attack others.
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John "F" Fountain
John "F" Fountain@FountainCartoon·
AI generated imagery is plagiarism. Plagiarism is theft. Theft is stealing. Stealing is wrong. It’s as simple as that. The rest is just a basic case of supply and demand. An artist charges what they believe their time and skill are worth. Yes - it’s definitely cheaper to steal… but it’s morally wrong.
Taylor Walston@sylevus

@FountainCartoon Actually it is, the old way was much harder.. your exact argument. But you will not pay the rate they would ask today

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Michael
Michael@TheMG3D·
Never stop fighting against generative AI!
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Is this a 3D model?
Is this a 3D model?@IsThisA3DModel·
The "No AI in Art" reactions are coming from the artists and people who appreciate art. The ones pushing AI in Art are the ones who barely engage with art. They never have a portfolio. They never follow artists. Theyre usually former crypto grifters.
Séb Krier@sebkrier

It's annoying that a lot of instinctive 'no AI in art' reactions come from crowds who barely engage with art, or when they do it's just occasionally going to Cafe Oto and buying some cringe candles from a Bushwick shop. I sympathise with the disgust at boring one shot prompted fluorescent Bored Ape infused aesthetic images, and painful EDM slop with soulless vocals from Suno - but there are plenty of really interesting art collectives who produce very cool/novel art using AI in creative and non-lazy ways. Obsessing over whether a particular tool is used is pointless; there's plenty of bad music with lazy sampling and cliche progressions, bad Warhol inspired paintings in Soho galleries for tasteless crowds, and artisanal movies produced for basic pattern matchers. The issue isn't whether AI is used or not, but how, for what purpose, as part of what kind of process, and so on. The instinctive "if AI = bad" automated reaction is just lazy. Good to be discerning, but if your criteria for evaluating art is an IF-THEN algorithm, I'm afraid you too are a bot. What *is* true is that the marginal cost of Al slop is effectively zero, so flooding the world with it is infuriating. I do cringe when I see a yellowish ChatGPT generated Ghiblified image on a Substack. But this is an inevitable consequence of lowering the barriers of production. Imo the future will require better walled gardens, offline spaces, better matching algorithms, a greater role for tastemakers, and a proliferation of subcultures. In many ways this has been the case when electronic music no longer required analog gear and giant expensive synths; virtual instruments lowered barriers, but there's more quality music than ever if you know where to look.

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@MrEwanMorrison You said nothing of substance has been created with AI. I've done tons with substance. To say an artist can't use AI is ridiculous! Sure, all my art was scraped to, so, I'm supposed to let everyone else use AI but not me? Nope. I'm going to take advantage of it for art!
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Ewan Morrison
Ewan Morrison@MrEwanMorrison·
@ericwayneart Distribution is the problem with AI generated film. It all enters "the long tail"
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Ewan Morrison
Ewan Morrison@MrEwanMorrison·
Yes, AI traps us in ever decreasing circles of the already-known. AI accelerates the recycling of the past and traps us in the act of repeating an already stagnant culture - while creating the superficial illusion of progress. Good article.
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Art vs Machine@ericwayneart·
@palomamcclain What's much, much more interesting is when real artists with MFAs and decades of experience integrate AI into their workflow and start really creating mew art with it! Get up to speed. Your argument is about 3.5 years old.
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Paloma McClain
Paloma McClain@palomamcclain·
Watching beginner artists attempt difficult things will always be infinitely more interesting than AI slop
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Art vs Machine@ericwayneart·
@ToshiArte You might really appreciate this music video I made from anti-AI hate comments I got on my music videos. Your animation looks almost like something in my video. It's also the best rebuttal to anti-AI art: youtu.be/_zzmhi_k-sY
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Toshi
Toshi@ToshiArte·
They told us we weren’t artists. We answered by becoming the biggest current art movement. Here’s the part that matters most: All art is art. Every medium is valid. Every artist, whether you mix pigments by hand, sculpt light with a lens, paint with code, or prompt a dream, is equal at the table. To the traditional painters, sculptors, and photographers already collaborating with us: thank you. Your open hands and curious hearts are the reason this revolution feels like family instead of war. To every AI artist grinding prompts at 3 a.m.: thank you. You’re proving that vision has never needed permission, only courage. We don’t need to tear anyone down to rise. There’s room for oil, marble, film, pixels, and neural networks on the same wall. The future isn’t “AI art” versus “real art.” The future is just art, louder, wider, kinder, and finally free. So keep creating, whatever your tool. Keep sharing. Keep lifting each other up. The renaissance isn’t coming. It’s already here, and it belongs to all of us. With gratitude to every hand that ever made something beautiful. #AIart #aiartist #art #Artists
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Art vs Machine@ericwayneart·
@piersmorgan Dude. Going after typos is weak. People make them all the time when they very well know the difference.
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@CantEverDie But, then, genius, artists themselves can use those same tools and their same creativity to take their own art even further. Did that ever even occur to you?
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onion person
onion person@CantEverDie·
pro-generative ai people will always say “ai is scary” as if there is irrational fear of it that leads to its backlash and no, it’s not “scary”, it’s that generative ai for music, video, art, and pictures steal from genuine, human made art. it’s unethical, not scary
eat soup@jasminericegirl

Genuinely no hate to anyone. At the end of the day, you guys care about helping people, and so do I.  I believe that music belongs to everyone, and that lowering the barrier to entry for music is a good thing. I've seen people light up when they get to create music for the very first time. I've seen Suno improve the creation process for so many lifelong musicians I know. I get to work with independent artists day in and day out, and I wouldn't be here if I didn't genuinely believe it will help more creatives do what they love.  A wide range of musicians use Suno in their creative process, from aspiring musicians to independent musicians to Grammy-winning musicians, and they do so with effort and authenticity. Songwriters are using Suno to underpaint their own vocals, lyrics, and melodies. Producers are uploading their own beats and building on top of it, extracting stems in Suno Studio that they can then take to their DAWs. It’s another tool that people can use to channel their own creativity, and if this tool isn’t for you, that is totally okay. I'm supportive of whatever helps people get their ideas across the finish line. I know AI is really scary. I worry about it too, and I've talked about it many times before. How do we make sure we enable AI for good and creativity? I think this is a question every technologist and every consumer needs to think about, and I'm at Suno because I want to help push towards the right goals. It's our responsibility to foster technology for good. Ultimately, I believe in technology's ability to expand creation for more and more people.  iPhones didn't end photography -- it expanded the definition of who could also be a photographer. Tiktok, Instagram, and Youtube all expanded the definition of who could be a content creator. The fact that anyone can be a content creator today (if they want to be) is really fucking cool to me. Content creation completely changed my life, and I am always going to be passionate about what I believe is expanding creation.  We work with busy parents who get to make their kids songs about the water cycle. We work with poets who get to hear their written words as melodies. We work with seniors in hospitals who see that they can still be creative, even as they lose mental and physical facilities. These stories really inspire me, and I believe all of these people deserve to experience this magic. Creativity is boundless, and there is room for everyone in it.

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@bbnogames Actually, It's just the labels protecting themselves and their ability to use the AI while the public doesn't have access to it. So, all art has been scraped, but artists don't have access to use it themselves. Big business thanks you for you support!
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bbnogames@bbnogames·
this recent development with major record labels purchasing rights and ownership of AI music generation platforms/companies has got to be the most fucking fried shit of all time. fuck ai
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@SketchesbyBoze No. I use AI in highly creative ways that can take months to produce a video. It's all up to the artist. Check out this music video I made using anti-AI hate comments. And read the comments under it, too. Real artists can also use AI. youtu.be/_zzmhi_k-sY
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Boze Herrington, Library Owl 😴🧙‍♀️
“I use AI to make music because it saves time.” Time for doing what? We're put on this earth to be creative, and these losers are letting machines steal the joy of effort, the joy of creation & the best hours of their lives. They’ve surrendered the very things we stay alive for.
Pop Crave@PopCrave

Teddy Swims says he sometimes uses AI when making music: "Instead of taking time to reproduce something over and over and over again in so many different ways that would take months sometimes to do, you can get the idea of what something would be fully fleshed out in this lane...If you use it the correct way, I think it's a beautiful tool.”

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Art vs Machine@ericwayneart·
@MrEwanMorrison I've made a movie over 90 minutes on my laptop a year ago. Check out this video and get back to me. It's a music vid made up largely of anti-ai hate comments directed at me. you don't know until you know. Reall artists use AI too. youtu.be/_zzmhi_k-sY
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Ewan Morrison
Ewan Morrison@MrEwanMorrison·
@ericwayneart Nothing of any substance or value has been created by AI slop. Just tik toks
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