@Anjelae9 @sophielouisecc Okay Anjela, how would YOU plan to stop rewarding dependence without risking children’s health?
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she/her. A fan account for something different every month. Likely got the morbs. Just want to stay home and eat chips. Who’s Dean like?
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@hanlemc @sophielouisecc That’s not an argument, it’s a deflection. The point stands: responsibility matters, and policy should stop rewarding dependence.
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It is not selfish to not want to pay for other people to have multiple children
It is selfish to have multiple children which you know you can’t afford and you know you don’t work.
Then expect someone else who does work to pick up the bill
That’s genuine selfishness
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@Anjelae9 @sophielouisecc Oh so you don’t have any actual insight or anything, you’re just booting off on an app that things are shit and parents are horrible with nothing else to offer? Cool
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@Anjelae9 @sophielouisecc And how are the people now accepting help with no clear understanding to contribute? How are you defining and policing that?
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@hanlemc @sophielouisecc 2/2 Either get a job and support your children or accept help only on the clear understanding that you still contribute. Stop hiding behind “the children” to avoid responsibility.
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@thenmillions @tcanham459 @stu4r7b Never said it wasn’t an issue, but the problem with thinking it’s “all” is people like you start discriminating against disabilities and making it harder for those who need the help to get it.
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@hanlemc @tcanham459 @stu4r7b I’d rather people think it’s all and something be done about it, than people think it’s not an issue and it Carry’s on
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Literally nobody gets £81k in benefits.
Essex Patriot@EssexgoonerMr
Under Labour, someone WORKING on £35k salary is £1,400 worse off But someone NOT working with 3+ kids could get £81k a year of benefits This is becoming a DISGRACE Rewarded for not working & PUNISHED for working harder for less
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@Michael60100963 @Basmans_grob @Askrigg_lad @BBCNews @UKLabour I can see in your tweets that you claim to care about children, yet you’re advocating for their starvation. Horrible man.
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There is a woman on @BBCNews this morning complaining that she is struggling to cope because she is out of work and has FIVE children.
She says what a relief it is to get the extra money from @UKLabour with the removal of the two child benefit cap.
My very simple question is - why have FIVE children knowing she won’t be able to afford to look after them?
There is a very simple solution.
It’s called Birth Control.
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@Michael60100963 @Basmans_grob @Askrigg_lad @BBCNews @UKLabour Were they? Or did the ban get lifted because people were struggling?
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@thenmillions @tcanham459 @stu4r7b Because realistically it is happening very rarely, which is the original point being made. People are not getting all that, some people might do. But people are taking it as all.
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@hanlemc @tcanham459 @stu4r7b You do understand that the amount that
Can claim could be very different
What exactly is your issue
That I didn’t give an exact number ?
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@Michael60100963 @Basmans_grob @Askrigg_lad @BBCNews @UKLabour Yes but as we have established time and time again, people do. So if they do, and cannot feed them, what then? You say they should starve? Because their parents won’t/cant feed them?
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@hanlemc @LFC_Ekitikitaka @tcanham459 @stu4r7b It's increased by around 5% of the population over the past 5 years.
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@ahighley @LFC_Ekitikitaka @tcanham459 @stu4r7b What are these new increases in disabilities? Is it things we are now recognising more as a disability? Or is it more people claiming they have 1 leg?
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@hanlemc @LFC_Ekitikitaka @tcanham459 @stu4r7b The sudden sharp increase in disabilities in recent times implies otherwise
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@thenmillions @tcanham459 @stu4r7b I’m not angry it’s true. I’m angry you’re using a “could” statement instead of using actual truth and proof to prove what can and can’t happen
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@hanlemc @tcanham459 @stu4r7b Yes it could
It could also be more depending on rent
Why are you so angry that this is true
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@Anjelae9 @sophielouisecc Yeah but if you take that government policy away NOW, who does that hurt?
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@hanlemc @sophielouisecc Stop pretending this is about me not caring about children. Of course they should be supported. The issue is government policy — if work, childcare and family support were properly structured, fewer people would be trapped in this mess in the first place.
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@ahighley @LFC_Ekitikitaka @tcanham459 @stu4r7b I’m saying disability benefit fraud is incredibly hard to do.
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@thenmillions @tcanham459 @stu4r7b “Could”, I COULD be a world class footballer if I was any good. Shut up for gods sake
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@tcanham459 @stu4r7b It’s not a lie tho
With pip, rent pay and child costs it could equal 3k a month
How much would you have to earn to get 3k a month after tax ?
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@LFC_Ekitikitaka @tcanham459 @stu4r7b Funding needs to be cut, vetting would be the way to go about it
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@RationeSolum @theveindoc @DrLukeCraddock Can’t be a me problem if thousands of people are saying the exact same thing. It depends on when you go, newer students will be paying it back at 25k which is incredibly low. So you are always still paying it.
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@hanlemc @theveindoc @DrLukeCraddock You’ll pay it if you’re a high earner, you’re likely to have the debt wiped if you dint reach your earning potential.
You not understanding what you signed is a you problem.
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Another tax year done, another year my loan grows. Despite working more than full time as a doctor in my third year of practice my salary repayments don’t even cover the interest on my loan. What a farce of a system.
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@NkSoumen @sophielouisecc Sure sure. Any proof beyond your opinion?
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@hanlemc @sophielouisecc Benefit scrounges are not looking for anything other than free handouts, there are genuine Vars no doubt, but due to the influx of economic immigrants, bad actors this system is beyond broken. It has become a lifestyle choice for many.
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Hi has as a working class person who has to go to work
I am not a fan of people who do not work earning more than me in benefits
Hope that helps.
Has Ahmed@HasAhmed_
What I genuinely don’t understand about people like Sophie Corcoran is how someone who is clearly working class ends up acting as a mouthpiece for billionaires like Ratcliffe or comfortably wealthy pensioners while simultaneously complaining about having to work bank holidays just to scrape by. At some point you have to confront the contradiction: you’re not defending “success,” you’re defending a system that is actively squeezing you. Carrying water for people whose wealth depends on keeping your wages low is not going to win you brownie points with them. Trust me.
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@RationeSolum @theveindoc @DrLukeCraddock But I’m not? I’m paying my debt, but it’s a debt that is insurmountable and barely payable, which was missold at the time.
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@hanlemc @theveindoc @DrLukeCraddock You play the hand you’re dealt, if getting into a mountain of debt don’t expect others to pay it for you.
Weldon to the real world.
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@RationeSolum @theveindoc @DrLukeCraddock Okay but if I save 27k and have to get a 5k loan for food and rent while I’m not working, I can’t afford it. So your answer is, go to uni late and/or only the rich can afford to. Fucking elitist
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@hanlemc @theveindoc @DrLukeCraddock Don’t take a loan you can’t afford, I can’t believe that needed highlighting.
That’s not a no loan stance.
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