SinStockPapi
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Using a quantitative framework to understand which factors have the greatest impact on valuation multiples
Important quantitative drivers of a valuation multiple are return on capital, cost of capital, growth, and duration of growth. From a quantitative perspective, it is important to understand which factors will have the greatest impact on a company's valuation multiple - What is the impact to the multiple from a 1% change in the return on capital? What is the impact from 2 points of long term growth to the multiple? Target multiples can be derived based on these underlying drivers using the formulas below.
The formulas below assume that value-adding growth will continue perpetually. This is a simplifying assumption but more realistic two-stage versions of the formulas can be used which incorporate an initial growth period followed by a terminal period.
Comment below if you'd like the excel file with the one stage formulas, two stage formulas, and their derivations.

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@aleksizy @GavinSBaker Dude it’s already a weekly data release. Classic example of data / quant guys not understanding fundamentals and just thinking in data world. Like PL use to say at Coatue!
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@GavinSBaker Out of curiosity, would seeing this data faster (say daily or weekly or with no lag at the end of a month) make a significant difference in your process? or not really?
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@GaryGensler @citsecurities @SEC_Enforcement @SECEnfDirector @GoldmanSachs @jpmorgan @SECGov @Citrini7 You can see in the level 3 securities order flow detail that after this was posted you saw an influx in retail orders
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Now is the part of the cycle where Substack guys manipulate small float stocks. This thing literally got halted right after he posted this in his Substack chat. While he might say “be didn’t buy it” @Citrini7 still has a commercial / economic interest bc his degen subs moon it
Citrini@citrini
Now is the part of the cycle where you find businesses that are priced like they will die and then make money when it turns out they aren’t going to die (even if the business is still kinda meh) $RENT
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@Alphaholic1 @InnocenceCapit1 He’s terrible. He just shitposts on here all day. No one on FinTwit runs capital at a real fund. All just wealth mgmt bros
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@InnocenceCapit1 What’s your track record
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Does anyone know about @InnocenceCapit1’s track record? My dms are wide open
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@Rebrand_As_Y What are you at for FY25. Street is way too high. More reasonable base case is $5.35 EPS
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@Rebrand_As_Y @liensofnewyork Dude you literally didn’t have a model or know what basic #’s were. You talk about how pods “don’t invest” meanwhile you don’t even have a basic model.
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@sinstockpapi @liensofnewyork I delete most tweets
I never claimed to be authority on Spotify
I made an observation that a stock up 60% YTD / 200% from the lows probably shouldn’t be ripping >10% on a price increase that is needed for the story to work in the first place
If you consider that being exposed
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@liensofnewyork @Rebrand_As_Y Liens is right... Meanwhile avg non pod fund struggles to even have dialogue w a PM etc. I don’t work at a platform, but only losers are guys like @Rebrand_As_Y who make it their whole personality to dunk on pods lol. A week ago he got exposed on Spotify and deleted his tweets
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@Rebrand_As_Y When I say resources I'm not talking about sell side...
... And no one uses yipit - it's just a funny joke
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@Rebrand_As_Y @aanalystbro Dude you literally went on a rant re $SPOT then it turned out you weren’t even fucking modeling the company, let alone correctly. 😂😂😂
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@aanalystbro “Also turns out short horizon data is useful for long horizon forecasts”
A nice sounding idea that pods don’t follow. They will short anything if there is data showing a near term blip that street doesnt expect. That is completely at odds with “useful for long horizon forecasts”
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@bucketshopcap @FIGfluencer Eh they are fine. Canned some ppl that’s norm. Baly actually managed last ~4-5yrs well. Up 33% in 2020, 8-10% in 2021-2022. Sure lagged leers in 2023 but firm way better than pre-2018. I mean they won’t even take checks anymore. Up same as Citadel so far in ‘24
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@FIGfluencer Are they that bad? Heard they canned a bunch of people.
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@sj_xxxxxxx @doodlestein @bucketshopcap They’ve actually managed last ~4-5 years really well and way different firm than pre-2018. Up 33% in 2020, ~8% in 2021, ~10% in 2022. Sure, in 2023 they lagged but materially beat multi manager peers in 2020. Better vol vs. MLP too.
Easy to shout from the cheap seats.
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@doodlestein @bucketshopcap Gotcha so like red bull vs mclaren in f1 terms. Same league technically but miles apart (pun intended)
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@heartbreakout @msciencellc @yipit @yipitdata FYI - @heartbreakout is illegally sharing your reports / data. He is also selling your reports / data for commercial use.
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@rev_cap He’s a walking lawsuit waiting to happen. MScience reports have language all over them stating not to disseminate (esp for commercial use) @heartbreakout Shameful that he’s using other ppl’s work and re-selling it on Reddit.
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