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The Eldest Daughter of the Church has come back home.

@ZakariyeHe18042 @ms_3_u @IslamMumin30 @LAldyn43792 @Acts17David @muslimorthodoxy Literally what academics do all day long: "I don't know if this really happened" but within YOUR corpus this is what it says. Harry Potter doesnt exist but there is canon for him. All of Islam & Mo is shaky, ie archeology of Mecca etc. But it is what YOUR tradition recounts

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 Here is the bishop list for Alexandria, which Mark himself founded---just show me the baptist leadership: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p…

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 Here's the list of bishops of Rome just tell me which ones were baptists:

These animals won’t make the slightest sacrifice even on the holiest of days. Protestantism is demonic.

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 But but but....special pleading. Objects and the presence of holy men (living and dead) healed. Let me know when you find the baptists before 1600. Good luck.

Christ's cloak? Do you mean the robe that was mockingly put upon him? Please. Don't call peter's shadow a relic. A shadow is an absence of light. It's not an object. It's a lack of physicality, or even photons. The verse also doesnt say that the shadow healed, only that people thought it could, or might, such was his reputation. Polycarp's veneration means nothing. It was the will of men, not an ordained thing of God, who did not command it. Again, it's you who is specially pleading for a shadow and the actions of men after the close of canon.

@ZakariyeHe18042 @ms_3_u @IslamMumin30 @LAldyn43792 @Acts17David @muslimorthodoxy Within academic there is something called the "Criteria of Embarrassment" essentially embarrassing things are more likely to be true because why would followers invent them? So the hadiths that are downgraded, many scholars consider potentially the most likely and accurate.

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@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 By placing the word "not" emphatically in front, I guess you win. Powerful. Your "basic" reading of the NT is not what happened with Christ's cloak, Peter's shadow or Paul's cloth...and not what Christians immediately did with Polycarp. The special pleading continues.

I'm doing no such thing. You're projecting. The catholic church dkes the special pleading. It sees objects used in wildly different contexts to glorify Him and thinks "we can name any old bone/object ourselves as holy" Elisha's bones were not a relic. Elijah's cloak was not a relic. Aaron's staff was not a relic. You know what the closest thing was to a relic in scripture? The Bronze serpent. And what happened there? People began to VENERATE it to the point of idolatry and it had to be destroyed. The power was never in the object. The ark, a "relic" which contained the Rod you mistakenly deem a relic in the catholic understanding of the term, began to be viewed the same way. Foolish men took it into battle like a charm that would win for them, and they suffered. It was eventually taken from the people. A basic reading of the NT shows God no longer wants us focusing on physical objects, but having faith in the unseen, in that what is not made by hands. The jews wanted signs, and objects and proofs. God wants faith in Him alone, in the power of his name and Word.

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 Right, so holy relics that healed are in the Bible. There are other relics like Aaron's staff, Elijah's cloak. For the rest, look up to the term "special pleading' which is what you desperately are doing. When this is done for Polycarp it is organic and entirely biblical.

Elisha'a bones were not a relic. They were in his tomb. A simple knowledge of jewish funeray prohibitions would show those bones never left the grave, were not to be touched or displayed like the freak shows catholicism conducts. Paul's apron and handkerchief were time and location specific, in a city known for superstitious charms and tokens. They werent displayed or used elsewhere. It was a miracle the Ephesians in particular would understand as a display of power.

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 Genius, I understand you are not an actual Mormon. But your history of the first 500 yrs of Christianity and theirs is essentially the same---which is why all the other branches (including most prots) hold baptists in contempt for their loose & false history. And you don't care.

@FideusF @Catholicizm1 Boring. I'm pure Trinitarian. Mormons- polytheism & Joe. Catholics- trinity plus marian demigoddess. lol @ your attacks on baptists.

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 Elisha's bones and Acts 19:11 say you are wrong.

@FideusF @Catholicizm1 There are No relics as the catholics understand them in scripture.

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 Yah, this is where you going full Mormon tier, great apostasy and all that. I know exactly what the Church Fathers say. They are nothing like baptists. Even most of the other prot reformers were horrified by baptist attempts at history.

See if you REALLY did your homework you'd know early church figures were rejecting this hideousness 1200 years before the reformation. "Major historical errors" of course. Because theyre just men. Like the leaders of the RCC. I'm supposed to be insulted by your attack on baptists 😅 -by an unsaved cult convert who now bends the knee to statues and swallows christian fanfic made up hundreds of years after the close of scripture. You're lost and always were, loving your demigoddess worshipping apostasised roman cult. Christ is King. There is No Queen.

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 Yes, I know you are very unconcerned with history. There are relics in the NT and OT. Polycarp literally was a student of John who wrote much of the NT. You just don't care what the apostles and their students believed?

I don't give a damn what skeptics think. If you want to water down the power of God's Word and way of doing things with the relativist lies of skeptic unbeleivers/catholics you knock yourself out. God preordained resurrection from before creation, so no I don't think some egyptian thought of it first. Yeah, you go with whoever dude. Anything but the Word of God Himself, right?

@NoInnrMonologue @Catholicizm1 You are aware skeptics think all of OT/NT resurrection ideas come from Egypt/Persian beliefs? You should think about what that means for you. But egypt didn't have saints. No academic thinks it was from Buddhism. I'm going with Polycarp (who knew John) over a crank baptist.

@FideusF @Catholicizm1 Ancient egypt & buddhism 110% did/does the same damned creepy stuff. It isn't just "intact bodies" -I've personally seen wizened rancid hands, feet displayed proudly. "A resurrection people" give me a break, it's a profound fixation on death and decay. You may be fooled, I aint.

@TungstenMonarch ....has catholic crusader PFP. Larper, and stolen valor.

Roman Idolatry in action.