@OOZukerkandl @DrFisura @Askwhyisit Touche', and thanks for having me! .. I reread what you posted and perhaps I was a little harsh w my rebuttal. I apologize 🙄.. Godspeed
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Variable Volume
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Do you mean
- Odin
- Zeus
- Allah
- Vishnu
or any other god?
Dr. Fissure ✝️ Doctor Fisura@DrFisura
@Askwhyisit @darwintojesus You deceive yourself. Everyone knows there is a God.
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@CrankiestEcon @BraddrofliT "Jesus was an apocalyptic heretic. Nothing he did preached compassion for anyone." -
Your initial response to the op is strawman fallacy🤷♂️
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@VVolumeWM @BraddrofliT Never said these things. Asserting how I think so that you can poison the well in the conversation isn’t very productive.
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@CrankiestEcon @BraddrofliT I may have been snarky, but not sure where I was being 'hateful'?.. feel free to quote where I was coming off as hateful?
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@VVolumeWM @BraddrofliT None of this is but a straw man to my position and I have nothing to respond to your hate.
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@CrankiestEcon @BraddrofliT It's not productive to call Jesus a non compassionate heretic either, and it's theologically and philosophically dishonest... i was just mirroring the tone of your ragebait
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@Jensen_solace The big bang in, laymans terms, is a 'something came from nothing' theory. Science will never concretely conclude our true origins. & to be fair, neither will religion.. thats where faith steps in.. for god, or science..if you are rational, you can theorize how they work together
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“Creating something from nothing takes faith”
Lol. Sounds deep but collapses fast.
Atheism does not claim “something came from nothing”.
Cosmology explores models (quantum fields, eternal inflation, etc.)
If a deity can be eternal, so can the universe...
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HERE’S WHAT YOU’RE DOING:
Using mystery as evidence
Using definitions as proof
Using double standards as logic
HERE’S WHAT YOU’RE NOT DOING:
Providing evidence
Solving the contradictions in your own framework.
I’ll address your statements regardless.⬇️
Variable Volume@VVolumeWM
@Jensen_solace Where does morality come from? How are we sentient beings? Creating something from nothing takes a lot of faith. Call me a strawman. Idc... doesnt change the fact If god is limited by time, space and matter, he isnt God, is he?
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@Jensen_solace At least you admit science cant explain sentient beings. Respect.. but then you put a broad lense on 'believers' and you reduced all spiritual beliefs as magic.. it isnt that black and white
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“How are we sentient beings?”
That’s not an argument. It’s an open scientific question.
Inserting God here is:
“We don’t fully understand X therefore magic”
Textbook God of the gaps.
Disease? once “spirits” now pathogens
Unknown isn’t supernatural.
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@Jensen_solace Congrats, you know how to copy and paste as well?! 👏
Never said 'only my answers work' im asking genuine questions you cant answer through science alone. Why do we cry when a loved one passes? Is all of this random? Do you really believe that?
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You’re stacking questions, not arguments.
“Where does morality come from?”
You don’t win an argument by asking a question & assuming only your answer works. Morality comes from Evolution (cooperation improves survival),
Social contracts, Empathy & reasoning.
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@Jensen_solace Here is what you are doing
Deflecting from my questions your science religion has no answers for
Projecting science as the only explanation for the 'why' or 'how' questions.
By your logic, love and emotions are only brain chemicals formed by chance over billions of years.
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@FreeSoulMG @kaizen000000000 Im blessed. But the world is on fire. Our modern luxuries probably wont last much longer.. maybe then yall will realize you dont have much else, other than love, and some form of faith
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@VVolumeWM @kaizen000000000 "Promises to eventually set right"
You'll be alright
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Atheists don’t hate God. Most of us simply aren’t convinced He exists.
A perfect being shouldn’t create an imperfect world full of pain.
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@canniballzx @Network_Synth You were made by God, just as I was
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Frankly, it is my staunch position that anyone who truly believes that Satan is a real entity that exists outside of a fantasy book shouldn't be allowed to vote.
This shouldn't be an issue. It's a TV show made by writers and animators. You think Satan made Kirkman write this ep?
Temzy ‼️@imtemzy
The latest Invincible episode is literally Satanic Propaganda. It's not even canon to the comics. They had literally no reason to do this. Fuck this show
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@Jensen_solace @PhysicistTx Their is nonbiblical evidence Jesus existed. You can have a debate for 'is he the son of God' but to deny he existed is like saying Napoleon didnt conquer Europe... you might as well deny our whole process of collecting history
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@PhysicistTx @VVolumeWM Absolutely zero😂
But Lots of bold and unfalsifiable claims.
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My worldview in a nutshell:
– Reality is physical
– knowledge comes from evidence
– Beliefs are provisional
- Natural causes suffice, there’s no need for the supernatural
– Meaning/ethics come from human well-being and chosen purpose.
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@FreeSoulMG @kaizen000000000 Im blessed! but most of the world is on fire, quite literally, physically. Spiritually, etc. Our modern luxuries, mixed w social, media has turned us to a bunch of soda drinking know it alls, that our god fearing ancestors fought for
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@FreeSoulMG @kaizen000000000 Of God is real and this life is a 'test,' it’s not for God to find out what’s in our heart—He already knows. It’s for us to discover His sufficiency. Pain isn't a 'necessity' God enjoys; it’s a reality of a broken world that He promises to eventually set right..
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@CrankiestEcon @BraddrofliT In modern times, your blasphemy statement may be true for Muslim & Jewish religions, sadly.. Your science will NEVER explain the 'why' questions.. it cant. Their answers to the 'why' questions are mostly just hypotheses.. takes more faith to believe something comes from nothing
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@VVolumeWM @BraddrofliT That’s all you got?
Blasphemy is something the church utilizes for submission and used to execute innocent people for. I am sure you religious would love to reinstate that.
I don’t need mercy. Human flourishing relies on all of us creating a normative society. Not false hope.
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@CrankiestEcon @BraddrofliT Saying all this 'i know the secrets of the cosmos' ' i dont need mercy'bs from the basement of your comfortable modern house. Enjoying the fruits of modern luxuries from your God fearing ancestors.. Take all religion away, all you would have left is a subjectively moral society.
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Caption this photo or give it a movie title ( its a 80’s Style Buddy Comedy with Robots)
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@BigTipTony @Network_Synth Same to you. God bless you and Godspeed.. have a great weekend!
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@VVolumeWM @Network_Synth believe what you wish to be believe i cannot stop you
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@Jensen_solace You'll never gain the concrete proof of the 'why' things are with science.. science community dismisses ID while theorizing a Big Bang. Go ahead and get your dopamine drip from your likes. Keep worshipping yourself
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I like how you’ve just implied that It’s the best tool we have for navigating reality.
You are almost there.
Variable Volume@VVolumeWM
@Jensen_solace @darwintojesus @Askwhyisit Lol. Science is literally the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, & the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. It will never answer the 'why' of things.. it is mostly just hypotheses😅
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@Africanized3 You cant have common sense and believe a man can be a woman. You cant have common sense if you believe an unborn child is a 'clump of cells'. We can play this game if you want 🙉
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You cannot have common sense and still believe Moses parted the red sea with a staff.
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