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We understand Discord is proceeding with age verification without Persona, but some of the implications in this blog post about the capabilities & features of our platform are patently false. I’m fine if they don’t want to use us. I’m not okay with them publicly saying untrue things about our age assurance technologies to try to shift responsibility away from their own decisions. Doing so further erodes trust. > We’ve set a new bar for any partner offering facial age estimation, including that it must be performed entirely on-device, meaning your biometric data never leaves your phone. Persona did not meet that bar. We offer on-device age verification. We even offered credit-card based age verification for free (their new approach). We made this clear to Discord multiple times. Throughout our partnership, Discord was explicitly looking for a provider who could prevent “fraud/deepfakes/bots/using video game photo mode to pass age check.” We were transparent about the real technological limitations and capabilities of on-device solutions, which I shared elsewhere on this platform. We were upfront that on-device solutions can create a “privacy for only the wealthy” problem where only those with higher-end devices would be able to run the necessary models. We understood that they had experienced recent bypasses that could cause regulatory scrutiny. Many of us here at Persona are huge fans of Discord and some have been users since 2015. We were eager and willing to partner with them to address all these challenges.

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I believe there’s so much unnecessary confusion, frustration, and debate around age verification because we're treating two very different problems as one: 1/ Stopping kids from seeing inappropriate content 2/ Stopping adults from pretending to be kids I get why these are discussed together. Too much of (2) increases the risk of (1). But not all platforms face both challenges and certainly not at the same level, and treating them as the same problem leads to the wrong solutions and the wrong tradeoffs. I’m not a policy maker, but from our work at Persona, I’ve seen that the challenges, risks, and solutions for each of these problems are wildly different. Keeping kids from inappropriate content is a household-level problem. I don’t want to downplay the risks of social media or exposure to adult content. However, sacrificing broad privacy to solve what is fundamentally a parental controls problem doesn’t feel like a great bargain. Stopping adults from impersonating kids is a platform-level problem. It jeopardizes the safety and integrity of the community and at its core, it's fraud where adults have far more resources than kids. Unfortunately, the challenge is that more effective solutions tend to compromise more privacy. The best approaches evaluate how much of a tradeoff is worthwhile given the risks. When the risks of a technology don’t match the benefits of the problem it solves, public concern is justified. Applying fraud prevention techniques to what should be a parental controls problem is overreach. And a half-baked solution to adult impersonation is possibly worse. It’s security theatre where privacy is sacrificed but minimal assurance is gained. The more I work on this and the more I hear from all of you, the more I believe that if some privacy must be lost, some privacy should be gained elsewhere in return. The right framework is one that splits knowledge to prevent abuse. No single organization should know both: 1/ who you are 2/ what you are doing If Persona has to know who you are, we should make sure we don’t know what you’re doing or what app you’re using. And if a platform knows what you’re doing, they shouldn’t know who you are. This is not where the world is at today, and this framework is by no means perfect. But I think it’s better, and I’d love your feedback as we build it.

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