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Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno

@els_3ls @0Calamity No, I didn’t! I just didn’t talk about it. We still don’t know whether he was Mossad - he may well have been! - but the point here is about imposing a conspiracy theory on literally everything without any evidence

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@owenjonesjourno @0Calamity Owen, I'm going to be very gentle in how I say this. You are being demonstrably performatively credulous when you blindly accept the veracity of these "antisemitic incidents" in the context of the wider Gaza war. That's it. There's no "blanket conspiracy" going on.
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Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
@els_3ls @0Calamity It hasn’t become part of the official narratives! No one is saying conspiracies don’t happen! We are just talking about imposing blanket conspiracies on everything without evidence
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The Greens' membership has exploded in size in a very short space of time. But they desperately need to prioritise sorting out their vetting. The other thing is that we need to deal with conspiracist thinking on the left. It's not socialism and leads to very dark places.
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@owenjonesjourno @0Calamity There was plenty of evidence. I'm not going to do your job and list it for you. It's out there. Was circulating at the time. You just don't want to hear it until it becomes part of the official narrative and you're allowed by the powers that be to talk about it, as with Epstein.
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Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
@els_3ls @0Calamity No, I didn’t! I just didn’t talk about it. We still don’t know whether he was Mossad - he may well have been! - but the point here is about imposing a conspiracy theory on literally everything without any evidence
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@owenjonesjourno @Iridescent1985 Yes, that's exactly what you are. That ensures your continued appearances on television. There's tonnes of evidence the ambulance incident was a false flag, you're just wilfully blind to it because it doesn't fit your narrative of Jews being specially persecuted in the UK.
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Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
@Iridescent1985 @els_3ls What do you think I am, an apologist for the British media? Obviously the government and media spread conspiracy theories all the time - eg Palestine Action. But what’s your argument, therefore it’s fine if people on the left claim false flag attacks without evidence?
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@owenjonesjourno @0Calamity You were calling "Jeffrey Epstein was operating a Mossad blackmail ring" a conspiracy theory up until like a month ago. Why do you need "the truth" spelled out for you by the state you're claiming to oppose?
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Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
@0Calamity @els_3ls But the government should be condemned for that, doesn’t mean we then respond by inventing our own conspiracies
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@owenjonesjourno No the issue is you once again betraying any progressive movement the minute it starts to hit your net worth. The issue is you throwing normal people to the wolves to protect your own skin. The issue is not whether or not these incidents were false flags (they obviously were).
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Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
@els_3ls It is conspiracist to label anything and everything a conspiracy by default. There was no evidence that the attack on the ambulances was a false flag. People just decided 'this is such a convenient attack so therefore it's a false flag'. That's the issue here!
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@LeeAndersonMP_ My question is: "what are your plans after you lose your seat at the next election?". Would appreciate a quick response as don't know how long your GBeebies show will last x
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@v_j_freeman Your TERF war has nothing to do with protecting women, and everything to do with trashing trans people. While you frame your transphobia as "fairness in sport", "female health" etc., anyone with a basic understanding of how bigotry works sees through it. Your kids will remember.
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Victoria Freeman@v_j_freeman·
Feminist analysis played no part in the production of their video. A decision was taken to caricature & scapegoat women who are smeared as “TERFs” for raising majority held views about issues like fairness in sport, single sex services & clear language about female health.
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Victoria Freeman@v_j_freeman·
Oxfam International claim “feminist approaches guide all our analysis, action & interaction”. I don’t see how that can possibly be true when they explicitly identified women who have raised concerns about recognising the importance of sex in female oppression as public enemy no.1
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@JuliaHB1 You're also misrepresenting; it's FALSE that the IR produced the dramatic reduction in infant mortality. This emerged as a result of the Scientific Revolution and the Renaissance, which also resulted in the IR due to technological innovation. Please, please, read a history book
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@JuliaHB1 1. Claiming that "eco lunatics" are trying to reverse the Industrial Revolution 2. Contrasting positive (reduction in mortality) and negative (climate change) effects of IR, even though there's no relation between the two You're strawmanning in the most textbook way
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