Roger Chiasson

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Roger Chiasson

Roger Chiasson

@Roger_Chiasson

Boston Se unió Haziran 2009
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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@MattPisko @JonKeenNLSports @DonTaylor5 Bingo. USHL is a feeder league to NCAA and get excited when any U20 players join an NCAA team. CHL not ready to acknowledge players now have choice after 50+ years of "ownership" of all players other than U20 NHLers. Choice is always good, CHL needs to adapt.
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Matt Pisko
Matt Pisko@MattPisko·
@JonKeenNLSports @DonTaylor5 CHL teams need to adapt. For too long, the system (much like the NCAA, pre-NIL) guaranteed ownership of top prospects from 15-19.
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Jon Keen
Jon Keen@JonKeenNLSports·
This clip making its rounds. @DonTaylor5 with a level approach. Gets it. No one talking about the WHL programs who put players right to the NHL. No NIL, no “extra weight room days.” Development - pro ready. There’s several programs. Kamloops - seven NHL’ers since just 2023.
Donnie & Dhali@DonnieandDhali

"The problem the Western Hockey League has right now is they are only getting 1 to 2 years out of their top kids out of the bantam draft.." @DonTaylor5 and @DhaliwalSports chat about Giants Defenseman Ryan Lin departing for the University of Denver. linktr.ee/DonnieandDhali

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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@bobssherpa @JonKeenNLSports @DonTaylor5 What's your point? Players now have a choice to leave the CHL to go to the NCAA for U20 seasons (17/18/19) and obviously some marquee prospects have chosen the NCAA path. Again, what's your point?
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TB@bobssherpa·
@JonKeenNLSports @DonTaylor5 x.com/bobssherpa/sta…
TB@bobssherpa

Fair warning to the @NHL A significant portion of your hardcore fanbase are followers and fans of the @CHLHockey Part of our joy is watching players pass through the CHL en route to their professional careers, many of whom have become stars in the NHL. My interest in the NHL will certainly wane dramatically if there is nothing done to protect the product of hockey at the grassroots level. I’m not alone Frankly, all I’ve heard over the past few years is what is good for the players. And that’s great. But I suggest it’s high time to have a serious discussion about what is best for the FANS of hockey; the paying customers, without whom there is nothing.

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Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@Callicleez @BCHL_Alberta He's smart and gets lost in coverage - like many elite scorers. QU is a great program to continue his development. If many/majority of best 18/19 are in NCAA, it begs the question how much development remaining CHL 18/19's will have as it will be a very different league.
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Cletus Van Damme
Cletus Van Damme@Callicleez·
@BCHL_Alberta He should go to a better conference, though, see if he can replicate the results against teams that give him less time and space in the o-zone
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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@GoSharksGo9696 @yolo_pinyato CGY blunders are arguably worse. Guy is clueless as to where the game is trending, no handle on analytics or valuing players now or incorporating demising value via ge/skills mismatch to evolving game. Might have traded for Griffin Reinhart in a few days.
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North American Independent Central Scouting (NACS)@MarkSeidel·
I agree Chris. When smart people people are lined up to buy CHL Teams for north of $20 million, I’m pretty sure that shows that the future is bright for the CHL. I’m REALLY impressed with all 3 League Commissioners (Crawford, Near & Cecchini) & Dan MacKenzie has been great & although the landscape may change a bit, it will still be the best Development League in the World and the #1 feeder to the NHL.
Chris Henry@Chens89

@severguy19 @MarkSeidel CHL will never be “done”. If it goes, so does the NHL.

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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@NathanPStrauss Interesting and factual but also somewhat misleading. The % of NFL and NBA players from the NCAA route is much larger than the NHL @ ~30% per CHI. NCAA FB/MBB also have 2-5x the number of D1 hockey schools that skew comparison as all 3 pro leagues have 30-32 teams.
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Nathan Strauss
Nathan Strauss@NathanPStrauss·
A couple of notable points here: college hockey has always fit better into the pro ecosystem than any other sport. ~50% of all players will play some pro hockey, and hockey players are almost 2x as likely to make the NHL compared to any other NCAA sport --> their pro sport.
Nathan Strauss@NathanPStrauss

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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@Mavpuck @jamespatrick101 Why not make even bigger and bigger straw men? Omg stop whining and moving the goal posts like a toddler. Each game is winner take all at higher seed culminating in a marquee event at predetermined location . Guess which league does it better than anyone else? Yeah the NFL.
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Mavpuck
Mavpuck@Mavpuck·
I don’t think it’s a good idea at all. But if the goal is a “better atmosphere” and “a better product for TV” (both things that Mr. Carle has stated the past 24 months are “improved” by home games in the NCAA tourney), why stop there? Because for all the fans saying we need home sites, there are just as many fans don’t like the seeding the NPI (or Pairwise before it) results in. Again, I don’t want to change it. And I also don’t necessarily think the tournament needs to go to campus sites.
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Mavpuck
Mavpuck@Mavpuck·
I think we need to hear from *all* interests involved before making a major structural shift like this. The “loudest proponents” so far have been the coaches, players, media, and fans of schools that, historically, are likely to host 1st round games (at minimum). Makes sense. Much more affordable and convenient to play at home — for those schools and their fans. But what about the schools that would be “perennial” road teams? What about the fact that (depending on the structure) you could see the entire tournament last more than two weekends (as it is structured now). And since the spin on this is that home games provide a “more exciting” atmosphere, couldn’t we also make the argument that “scrapping” the NPI and letting humans determine things — so the matchups are “more exciting for TV” — be the next step?
David Carle@DCarleDU

Robert, under proposed change, prior to this year, if you look at last 10 years… 30 DIFFERENT schools would have hosted in the 1st round. 21 DIFFERENT schools in the second round. Facts are facts. Nothing to do with Denver, everything to do with college hockey fans and players!

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Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@kfk222 @MaidenCanadian @BCHL_Alberta Heard that too as well as rumors of NHL, USAH, HC, CHL, USHL, NCAA etc summit to sort out the new and ever evolving landscape. Hopefully player development rules the day going forward.
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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@bergie9er Higher seeds have hosted non Frozen Four games/rounds historically. Just like the NFL. I think Coach Carle's approach - which seems to have near universal support - makes complete sense. Maybe think of it as game 7s where the higher seeds host. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divi…
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Andy Berg
Andy Berg@bergie9er·
David…first of all congratulations. Another unbelievable job by you and your staff. Let’s look at who would have hosted and will host moving forward since and after the Transfer portal, NIL, CHL changes.
David Carle@DCarleDU

Robert, under proposed change, prior to this year, if you look at last 10 years… 30 DIFFERENT schools would have hosted in the 1st round. 21 DIFFERENT schools in the second round. Facts are facts. Nothing to do with Denver, everything to do with college hockey fans and players!

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Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@kfk222 @MaidenCanadian @BCHL_Alberta I think there will be jockeying b/w the USHL and CHL but my guess is both do well even IF the majority of the best 18/19 are in NCAA or NHL. If 30-50% of NCAA freshmen are CHLers, I agree all junior leagues below these two have to rethink things.
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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@kfk222 @MaidenCanadian @BCHL_Alberta MSL's oldest went USHL(NTDP)->NCAA-> USHL->NCAA; same could apply to CHL in certain cases. And the USHL has had players leave at 18/19 forever and manage fine - CHL will too. But the landscape has changed forever because players have choices now.
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Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@mikemichiganfan @pdashow he won’t answer your question directly. Many top players will do both; CHL for 16/17/18 and then to NCAA at 17/18/19 as is there choice. It’s a new world and he is certain the world is flat.
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〽️. Powers
〽️. Powers@mikemichiganfan·
@pdashow You are clearly not okay with it. All your posts say you know better than McKenna, his agent and every Scout and GM in the hockey world when it comes to his development.
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Guy Flaming
Guy Flaming@TPS_Guy·
Gavin McKenna's season is over before April. Medicine Hat might still be playing for another 2-3 months. Weird.
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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@kfk222 @MaidenCanadian @BCHL_Alberta Or realize it’s a jump for most and view year 1 in NCAA as equivalent to 16 yo junior year all while acclimating to a higher level of play and competing for ice time.
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College Hockey News
College Hockey News@chnews·
Flyers GM Danny Briere on today's Porter Martone signing and how his year in the NCAA helped. h/t @KKurzNHL
College Hockey News tweet media
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Roger Chiasson
Roger Chiasson@Roger_Chiasson·
@pdashow @jbaraldi11 @TPS_Guy I have said playing in both is certainly viable via the CHL—>NCAA path taken by the CAN WJC. You just can’t seem to acknowledge that reality eventhough NHL GMs, scouts, player agents and players themselves most certainly have.
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Paul Owen
Paul Owen@pdashow·
@Roger_Chiasson @jbaraldi11 @TPS_Guy The only people I think making a mistake are ones who blindly argue one route is better for development than the other because that is the league they pay attention to.
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