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@Re__styx Hmmm true let's all just enjoy the story

Let's all be weird together (:

You are so wonderful... #rezero #NatsumiSchwartz #SubaruNatsuki #GluttonyIF #TsugihaguIF

@Re__styx I mean, yeah, it's nowhere near as bad as cult people but at the same time it's like saying they're not as bad as Hitler but I understand your point but you should understand Rem is more peak because of the fact she did that and as such we will talk about it

Lol. Like imagine thinking Rem is worse than the cultists. This is genuinely how Rem haters behave. What Rem did to Subaru was wrong but nowhere near the atrocities others have committed. Again, the cultists. Slaughtered 2 whole villages, including Rem's

@bestgirlnatsumi Peak art

@Re__styx Because they all have the same personality if we argue each loop of the cast is different then doesn't Subaru each time he loops he kills them basically? Then when he killed himself to save rem he basically killed everyone else with him in both arc 2 and 3

The whole "Emilia has always been the same person in each loop" drives me up a wall because no. How the hell do you look at this and conclude THIS Emilia is the same as "Satella" lol. She never experienced the things she did in that original loop and therefore doesn't know Subs

@WorldwideSaka Oh god that such nightmare fuel keeping it in mind if it happens

#arc10 #SakaR0 If I were Crusch and I started physically transforming into the very being I dedicated my life to severing ties with I’d crash out too I don’t blame her

@pickdanger WE NEED IT I need more meta analysis and what do you mean by outside the board uminko words being used????? DO it I BEG OF YOU

thought about making some threads about Re:Zero, one mostly focusing on meta aspects and the role of Observers in the story, how similar the Castle of Dreams and Shadow Garden are, how some characters exist "outside the board"... but I'm not really confident about it...

@Fena205 I believe the author is making Subaru worst and worst so when the rbd happens it not just oh we are so sorry and actually makes the cast challenge Subaru

I'm afraid that it can escalate to something worse and more harming for himself, especially that it was highlighted more and more even since vollachia too.

The new re zero chapter was a very fun read but heartbreaking nevertheless, and I can't help but see there're two worrisome patterns that keeps getting repeated and effect Subaru mental state grievly, one of them is not even new, just one that is hard to ignore now #Arc10

@666helldweller Let's gooo I saw it too

NEW CHAPTER

@Fena205 @SampsonMichae10 What will happen if it ti save Subaru or help him

@Fena205 @SampsonMichae10 All the witches are twisted in some way, Satella probably doesn't care about anything that's not Subaru if memory serves me right satella was the one to destroy the world, and not Envy, right? It would not surprise me if she did take the authority on purpose even knowing+

There's sattela too, it's the first time for me that a male character is actually the one suffering from assault&lack of personal space from multiple women, who are physically way more stronger than him, yet people still think that him being a man keeps him in "control" somehow.

@Fena205 @SampsonMichae10 Honestly, I believe Satella's relationship with Subaru in a way is more toxic than Rem's or at least as toxic since there is such a power dynamic but the problem is we barely know anything about Satella, so we can't say for sure

@hellbringe_123 @SampsonMichae10 Yup, he basically saw that a world without her will leave him too vulnerable and weak, he won't be able to do half as well without her, so he chooses her world because it was more "bearable"

@Fena205 @SampsonMichae10 Hmmm, would it be better to say Satella intentionally or not made a power dynamic where Subaru is at the bottom? As in he doesn't have much free will in what happens and is basically forced into constantly being with her because of loveless rbd

@SampsonMichae10 She touches Subaru whatever she pleases, hurt him and force him into submission, and even when he chose to accept her love, it was out of necessity, he saw that her brutal mercless love is better than a world without one, choosing to return to his abuser willingly this time-

@Hercules1125_ Too bad it that simple rem want to get Subaru to confess used death as a way to do so and that's fucked up id she was a guy you would be very mad

@hellbringe_123 This is the most circular reasoning Ive ever seen since my birth

I’m gonna go on a limb and assume the argument here. If the argument here is that she prompted Subaru to confess here, that’s cool, the point of contention is if she made him do something which he otherwise would not have done

@Hercules1125_ The want to manipulate him shows it manipulation

@Hercules1125_ That's the thing Subaru would not have done that in that situation for sure even if he had done it later which is still a question I have rem made him do something and had a clear intent to manipulate him to do that so even if Subaru would have done it later the fact rem had

@Hercules1125_ @SampsonMichae10 No? It is very easy to see that Rem was trying to fake her death. Not only that, but with the idea to make Subaru confess would he not have done it in that situation yes he COULD have done it later but rem made it so he did earlier if we assume he would and in a very wrong way??

@SampsonMichae10 Anything he wouldn’t ordinarily feel, especially considering that he already expressed he loves her earlier on. So yeah, in one of them a rational agent has good reason to believe they’d die, in the other they don’t. Hence why Felix says Subaru is irrational here

To prove how GOOD FAITH and LINEAR that I am, I will answer this. It is emotional manipulation since they would not normally feel that way or express their emotions to you like that and intentionally make you think they’d die.

@SampsonMichae10 Also Felix reaction isn't something we should trust completely Because he himself is kinda unhealthy with crusch but I need to talk and read more about it to make sure of it

Now to answer the second part of your question: You should accept how I define manipulation within the scope of this conversation since otherwise you're just going to run in circles saying "nuh-uh!" I would prefer some kind of progression of sorts

Manipulation at its floor is influencing someone towards making a certain decision Criteria depends on use case but the primary component in manipulation is deception—She faked her death to compel him to confess Also why is Felix being compared to a guy with no medical knowledge?

@UshiromiyaMemo @SampsonMichae10 @lotmsarvin93142 Bro tryna to power scale uminko is like going to a sea and seeing what part of it is more sea like it just doesn't work or even barley works, as I understand it as a joke but bro

@lotmsarvin93142 Well, you’re not exactly any better when you act like the Umineko fandom consists solely of powescalers, or when you imply that Umineko became famous mainly for powescaling, which is simply not true (there is a very well-known series called Higurashi btw).

-Didn’t read the novel -Calling it cultivation -Assuming it’s all about power scaling from a TikTok video -You literally made a thread for power scaling Gilgamesh 😭 -Literally the most your favorite media is known is because of powerscaling Goku, and you get clowned for that, but you guys won’t stop because you don’t have shame in the first place -The most talked about thing in LOTM is its world building. But you probably didn’t get that in your feed because you’re too busy debating Featherine vs Goku for the 10,000th time, so only powerscaling slop shows up on your TL Yeah… But god, Umineko fans are the bottom of the barrel. No matter how good it is, the majority of the fanbase is filled with mfs like this (not all).

@SampsonMichae10 Because their actions still affected the new loop I should add I was sending the question to the people you were debating with not you I hope this helps, and I wish you a great day!

@SampsonMichae10 Basically, I am asking if people are trying to say you can't count the bad stuff that someone else did in a loop because it never happened to them, or because they're different people I am saying that since the loop affects each other you truly have to say they're the same peopl

Kind sentiment until you recall that we're talking about actions that didn't occur in just another timeline and are instead addressing actions that left a nigh-irreparable impact on the single person who isn't reset through a loop She deserves to be held accountable if dismissed