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@HadizB @AI_EmeraldApple If they told her no AI was used she should not have to. Its like when a movie says no animals were hurt during filing, if animal lovers found out they hurt animals after watching and voiced a complaint you would not tell them they should have googled it before watching.

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Hadiz Blazer@HadizB·1d

@AI_EmeraldApple Yup. It just tells you she 'cares' so much about AI that she couldn't even be bothered to do independent research. Tells you how much she really cares lol.😂

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Emerald Apple@AI_EmeraldApple·1d

Either Ironmouse's team/agency lied, or they are incompetent when it comes to the NTE sponsorship. “Whenever I get an offer for a sponsorship… I always tell the people ‘can you make sure double, triple, quadruple-check that this does not have AI in it. I will not accept it if it does.’ And then, they assured me ‘no, don’t worry, you’re good, it’s fine.’… They told my sponsor people and said, ‘we do not have AI in anything, there’s no AI anywhere.’” That is just "her word" on the exact private communication, and no actual proof that the developers communicated in this manner. Ironmouse always had a hardline public stance about "NO AI anywhere" and told her team to double, triple, and quadruple check for any AI use. Not AI in the final game, not AI in just core assets, ANY AI. Either the sponsor oversold the NO AI angle or her agency didn't do the due diligence... NTE uses AI for atmospheric renderings, and it's in the game assets right now. The core development process, code, and other elements used AI heavily in the workflow. They even admitted in an interview that AI was used, easily searchable on the internet. So it boils down to two options where they knew but didn't care and got the money anyway, or were incompetent and didn't bother to do a simple Google search. Personally, I think it's all just hypocrisy with her long-standing Nikke ties, where the game studio has been using AI in promotional materials and game assets... with ShiftUp's CEO basically saying using AI "isn't an option anymore, it's a requirement."

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@Namikaze_VT Ok but that is her decision and people are mad at her for making her own choice. Like Mouse said there are thousands of games to play that don't have AI and there will always be people who want to make games without it. They still make vinyl record despite newer tech existing.

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Arashi Namikaze ☁️🌎 | Wandering Vtuber@Namikaze_VT·3h

If that's her position it's still a dumb position. Game companies are going forward to use it, it's inevitable. It's an untenable position to hold. It's going to be one of the factors to offset the cost of development What's she going to do stop playing games once it gets to that point.

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Arashi Namikaze ☁️🌎 | Wandering Vtuber@Namikaze_VT·5h

I'm sorry is ironmouse telling us that AI is bad while an AI voice clone of Connor is being used as a TTS in the same video. I swear if people didn't have double standards they wouldn't have standards at all

John Semen@J0hnSemen

Ironmouse has dropped her Neverness to Everness sponsorship after finding out that the developers lied to her ad agency about not using generative AI in the game #NTE

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permanentfold@permanentfold·3h

@Namikaze_VT She doesn't have a problem with AI as a whole, she has a problem with generative AI trained on other people work without permission. Your argument is like complaining at someone who doesn't private jets for flying commercial. You can call them a hypocrite but you are wrong.

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Arashi Namikaze ☁️🌎 | Wandering Vtuber@Namikaze_VT·3h

@permanentfold A straw man is when you present an argument that the person has not made to make it easier to attack my position. And all I said was if you have a problem with AI then maybe you shouldn't contradict yourself by using a form of AI in your stream

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permanentfold@permanentfold·4h

@Namikaze_VT Either you don't know what strawman means or you just don't know that Mouse specifically said she doesn't care if other people play games with AI and she is not telling people they can't.

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Arashi Namikaze ☁️🌎 | Wandering Vtuber@Namikaze_VT·4h

@permanentfold Wow good strawman there!

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permanentfold@permanentfold·4h

@Namikaze_VT Mouse didn't try to tell people not to play it doesn't say people can't use gen AI and only mentioned this on her own stream, She doesn't want to play games with AI why is she not allowed to not play a game?

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permanentfold@permanentfold·4h

@Namikaze_VT percentage? AI art and video generation is trained on a lot of stolen art. Also why do you people even care that someone doesn't want to play games with gen AI, it literately doesn't effect you.

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permanentfold@permanentfold·5h

@ChaplainAsmo @zilleel @xLament69 @KounaraChan Also isn't it hypocritical for you guys to try cancel someone for interacting with another streamer while bitching that people are trying to "cancel" a game for Gen AI

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permanentfold@permanentfold·5h

@ChaplainAsmo @zilleel @xLament69 @KounaraChan Connor didn't say vtubers suck, you are pulling that out of your ass, Live2D does not used generative AI and Connor stopped talking to Hasan ages ago.

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kounara コウナラ🍭🍬@KounaraChan·1d

people lied about NTE mentioning genAI everyone including big cc’s virtue signal and try to cancel the game a lot of these “people” also hate genAI but defend/don’t mention LLMs (because it doesn’t effect them) performative nature of the internet at its finest. 0 principles

NTE Global@NTE_GL

Dear Appraisers, Thank you for the feedback. It matters to us. Neverness to Everness is built on human creativity. The characters, stories, and world you experience are the work of artists, writers, and designers. AI-assisted tools were used only on a small number of background and environmental assets, not on the characters or stories that define this game. We're already reviewing and reworking the flagged assets: "Clear Skies in Summer" and "Pink Paws Heist". Your feedback shapes this game, so please keep it coming. We're listening, and we're committed to delivering the quality you deserve. Sincerely, The NTE Team

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@Powdur_Virus I don't think you understand placeholders, they aren't placeholders if they say in the final game.

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Powdur Virus 🤍🪻@Powdur_Virus·23h

Honestly wish y'all didn't change anything. These people don't care about the game clearly and can't understand the concept of placeholders.

NTE Global@NTE_GL

Dear Appraisers, Thank you for the feedback. It matters to us. Neverness to Everness is built on human creativity. The characters, stories, and world you experience are the work of artists, writers, and designers. AI-assisted tools were used only on a small number of background and environmental assets, not on the characters or stories that define this game. We're already reviewing and reworking the flagged assets: "Clear Skies in Summer" and "Pink Paws Heist". Your feedback shapes this game, so please keep it coming. We're listening, and we're committed to delivering the quality you deserve. Sincerely, The NTE Team

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permanentfold@permanentfold·12h

@Dy_lm96 @Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar Did you ignore the last part? they removed the AI.

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D.Lim@Dy_lm96·16h

@permanentfold @Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar Oh, she recorded that before, she could have just taken the video down and not post it? Or better yet, where's her twitter post condemning the game and saying they lied to her? See how retarded and flawed your statement is?

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Tactikal Templar@TemplarsRoar·1d

So… like I said… Ironmouse lied. NTE admitted to using Gen AI before launch, IronMouse played the game and got her money for the sponsorship, then virtue signaled and pulled the ladder up behind her. It’s actually crazy how people ignore the egregious behavior of these streamers.

NTE Global@NTE_GL

Dear Appraisers, Thank you for the feedback. It matters to us. Neverness to Everness is built on human creativity. The characters, stories, and world you experience are the work of artists, writers, and designers. AI-assisted tools were used only on a small number of background and environmental assets, not on the characters or stories that define this game. We're already reviewing and reworking the flagged assets: "Clear Skies in Summer" and "Pink Paws Heist". Your feedback shapes this game, so please keep it coming. We're listening, and we're committed to delivering the quality you deserve. Sincerely, The NTE Team

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@Dy_lm96 @Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar She recorded that before it came out that they used AI and then they removed the AI.

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D.Lim@Dy_lm96·16h

@permanentfold @Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar Well, she did an entire music video for Expedition 33.... Where's her "outrage" for E33's usage of AI.

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permanentfold@permanentfold·16h

@Slumbernana0249 @TemplarsRoar No she doesn't she, the only time she has is if she didn't know. she has dropped games mid playing before because she found out they had AI.

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Nano@Slumbernana0249·17h

@TemplarsRoar She also plays and loves other games that use AI. Hell one of them, Nikke, primarily uses the shit. Way more than NTE did. I'm sick of the double standards, the virtue signalling, and the shit ass CCs. And their drones that listen to whatever they say.

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permanentfold@permanentfold·18h

@mrlelguy @Blazeon e33 removed the AI though.

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mr.lelguy@mrlelguy·1d

@permanentfold @Blazeon so then delete it afterwards no?

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Blazeon 🔥@Blazeon·2d

I bet Mihoyo didn't went to any of its sponsored streamers and said : "Get sponsored by us, btw, we have ai, i hope you are okay with that". Also, didn't Ironmouse do a cover for E33? Wait until she finds out that E33 also has AI used in assets too. 🤯🤯🤯 It would be A BIT AWKWARD being upset at the AI usage in NTE but not complaining at all with Genshin's or E33's to the point of playing and singing covers for these games. Who would even make a cover for a game that has AI assets in it? That's kinda weird to promote 😳

This is weird@Thisisweir36014

@Blazeon mihoyo use AI? fine Twitter use AI? fine Capcom use AI? fine Somehow smaller company didn't even know it is or not is not fine. You had their contract why not contact them and ask rather than talk on stream and damage the game more

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permanentfold@permanentfold·1d

@Kuropiosu @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews This is not the first time she has dropped a game or not played a game because of gen AI but non of those got clipped and got blown out of proportion. No problem for the 14 minutes mix up, we all misread things sometimes.

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Kuro-pi 🐉🏆@Kuropiosu·1d

@permanentfold @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews Of course not. She didn't need to. All she had to do was mention a couple controversial key words and it would be all over the internet. As for the 14 minutes, I misread you tweet, sorry.

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Chibi Reviews@ChibiReviews·1d

The NTE Situation is insane and nothing but performative outrage by VTubers trying to score brownie points online. I respect Ironmouse, but this situation is terrible. youtu.be/k4PxSnULQoU

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permanentfold@permanentfold·1d

@Kuropiosu @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews Where did you get 14 minutes from? I said it was a few of minutes during a stream and she never posted about it anywhere else.

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Kuro-pi 🐉🏆@Kuropiosu·1d

@permanentfold @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews Ah yeah, 14 minutes is a long fucking time to say, "given some new information that came to light I decided not to proceed with the collaboration." But no, she didn't make a show of it, which is why it's all over social media now, right? That's exactly what making a show of it is

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permanentfold@permanentfold·1d

@Blazeon If she was virtue signaling she would have posted about it on twitter and made a YouTube video about it, she didn't she only mentioned it for a few minutes during a 14 hour stream. Someone else then clipped it and you guys made it a bigger deal than it ever had to be.

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Blazeon 🔥@Blazeon·1d

Honestly? It is impressive how Ironmouse can take a NTE sponsorship, get the bag, and then virtue signal and shit all over the game's reputation, ruining future sponsorships done for other content creators after her. And then she has the anti-ai retards defending her too wow 😂

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permanentfold@permanentfold·1d

@bananakkjoh @Blazeon We are going in circles here If Mouse heard about the AI because of indie game awards, which is when it became more widely known, then this was before that she found out about it.

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bananoso@bananakkjoh·1d

@permanentfold @Blazeon youtu.be/BCIiBEO73Lg?si… December 8, 2025

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permanentfold@permanentfold·1d

@bananakkjoh @Blazeon Follow the conversation back, because it was recorded long before it was released and E33 did remove the gen AI.

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bananoso@bananakkjoh·1d

@permanentfold @Blazeon So why did she do the cover? How could she not see something that was all over the internet? That bitch just wasn't trying to signal virtue at that moment

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permanentfold@permanentfold·1d

@Kuropiosu @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews She did not make a show of it she talked about it for a few minutes after chat brought it up during a 14 hour stream. She never posted about it on twitter or anywhere else.

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Kuro-pi 🐉🏆@Kuropiosu·1d

@permanentfold @Grown_Otaku @ChibiReviews You could do it quietly without announcing it to the entire world and only address it if it is brought up later on. That would be the professional thing to do. Instead, she made a show of it. I like ironmouse but like anybody else, she's not perfect and I think this was a mistake

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