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Left of Centre Brexit

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Left of centre page supporting Brexit as the long term project unfolds. Tackling the culture war, Channel crisis and Starmer's shenanigans. YouTube link below

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Left of Centre Brexit
Left of Centre Brexit@LeftBrexit·
RT if you are a Brexit supporter and will not vote for Starmer's Labour under any circumstances.
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Left of Centre Brexit@LeftBrexit·
@NadiaWhittomeMP The thing is, how tolerant will they be of us as their numbers grow and they gain political power? This is what's concerning people. We can't pretend our cultures can coexist. It doesn't work like that.
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Nadia Whittome MP@NadiaWhittomeMP·
The far-right’s reaction to criticism of Nick Timothy's comments shows that they are experts at playing victim to evade scrutiny and manufacture outrage. If you argue that one group of people should be excluded from the right to free speech, freedom of assembly and freedom of belief: don’t start whining when people hold you to account for your bigotry and hypocrisy.
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Rupert Lowe MP
Rupert Lowe MP@RupertLowe10·
Nick Timothy is a good bloke and a brave MP. He took the time to attend our rape gang inquiry - not many politicians did that, at all. Nick showed a lot of courage this week. I support him.
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Basil the Great@BasilTheGreat·
One woman had a late stage abortion, later regretted it and named her stillborn child Another had a late stage abortion to hide she had been cheating on her husband There are restrictions in place for a reason We shouldn't be allowing abortion up until birth in the UK
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William Clouston SDP
William Clouston SDP@WilliamClouston·
For progressives, a collision with brutal reality in the world they created…
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Capel Lofft
Capel Lofft@CapelLofft·
It's utterly bizarre to suggest that we have to think about all religions precisely the same despite very real differences between them. When someone tries to or does commit mass terroristic murder on British shores in the name of Guru Nanak or Buddha or Moses, then let me know.
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Tim Stanley
Tim Stanley@timothy_stanley·
Intrigued to hear Barry Gardiner describe himself as a "proud Christian" on GBNews, but a few minutes later defend his vote to decriminalise abortion up to birth. Some Christians are relaxed about abortion, and that's their call. But I do think you have to explain yourself.
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Claire Fox
Claire Fox@Fox_Claire·
@LeftBrexit Surprising amount of Tory support for AD Bill & healthy gp on Labour left opposed. Never as black and white as people suppose
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Claire Fox@Fox_Claire·
I was furious that one Noble and Learned Lord (ie a top KC) accused those of us scrutinising the Assisted Dying Bill of wanting to avoid any vote because we'd lose, as happened on Wednesday night on decriminalising abortion. What a cheap culture-wars point, implying everyone opposing AD is just the usual suspects/anti-abortion crowd. Not true but also a snide attempt at suggesting that there is a herd-like opposition to AD, when the truth is the Bill is a mess, whatever side someone is coming from politically.
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Nigel Farage MP
Nigel Farage MP@Nigel_Farage·
What we witnessed in London at the historic Trafalgar Square, in a country built on Judeo-Christian values, was a group of people attempting dominance over our capital city and our culture. We are not going to surrender everything that was built over centuries and defended at great cost in two world wars for us to be a free, independent nation. The British people will not put up with this any longer — simple as.
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Claire Fox
Claire Fox@Fox_Claire·
@LeftBrexit This go together as a lazy meme tbh. Eliding the two as same cause for all (on either side) does not add clarity on either. Fair enough re joke.
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stellacreasy@stellacreasy·
They are saying the quiet parts out loud now. They want you to hate women for not having enough babies. For daring to want to lead equal lives. They want you to hate someone who holds a different religion to you. For daring to practice it and pray. They want you to hate someone for disagreeing with them. For not sharing their values and standing up to them. They want you to hate. Its the currency of their world. Don't let it be the currency of yours.
Danny Kruger@danny__kruger

Nick Timothy and Nigel Farage are right, and Sadiq Khan and Keir Starmer are wrong. Small groups of people, of whatever religion, praying in public places is fine. And as a Christian country we should allow a special privilege for churches to lead services in our national spaces, like the Palm Sunday celebration that happens in Trafalgar Square. What we don't want is mass ritual observances intended to claim the civic realm for another religion, or assert the domination of another culture over our own Christian traditions. What happens in our national spaces is not neutral. People use Trafalgar Square, for celebrations and demonstrations, to make a point about the kind of country they want us to be. The Palm Sunday pageant reminds us of who we are - not as individuals (many or most of us don't identify as Christians at all) but as a national community, with the roots of our institutions in the ground of the Bible and our most solemn communal moments, from coronations to funerals, mediated through the liturgies of the Church. A mass Adhan held there, or in any town square, is making a different point: that Britain is not a Christian country, and that - inshallah - one day it shall be Muslim. This is unacceptable to the British public and indeed incompatible with our constitution. As ever with these debates, the issue is partly one of kind and partly one of degree. There is an issue with Islam itself as a religion which in most interpretations does not admit of pluralism or freedom of conscience, and therefore is inherently aggrandising, including over territory. But with a bit of confidence and a bit of toleration we could handle that - if it were not for the issue of degree. It is the scale of Islam in Britain, and the ambition of its leaders for greater scale, that makes the problem. The numbers of people who assembled for the adhan in Trafalgar Square, clearly and openly claiming the territory for a faith with no connection (indeed, with strong doctrinal disagreement) with the model of Western liberal democracy that Britain has developed and exported to the world - that is the problem. The numbers, whether everyone there understood it this way or not (and I suspect many did), convey an explicit threat to the foundations of our country. Being relaxed about other people's religion is a good thing, a very British thing. I don't mind modern druids dancing around Stonehenge in my constituency (arguably, though the historicity is tenuous, they have a claim to the place). I don't mind small groups of Hindus or Buddhists or Muslims demonstrating the reality of Britain's religious toleration by worshiping in Trafalgar Square. But let's not kid ourselves about this adhan, or pretend that we're just seeing another harmless expression of Britain's religious diversity. We are seeing an abuse of liberalism, led by people who are not themselves liberal; or - let us imagine they are acting in good faith - who are themselves deceived about what they are doing. It should not happen again. And it would be good to hear the Church of England say so.

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Steve Loftus
Steve Loftus@LoftusSteve·
For a number of years, more than 20 years ago, I worked for a Pakistani owned business and lived in a Muslim dominated area of Manchester. I understand why Nick feels this way, and those railing against it in the name of diversity are ignoring that Islam is aggressively intolerant of other religions. I have many years of personal experience with both immigrant and British born Pakistanis. There was no real difference. Islam is the one true faith and all others are "kafir". It's a far more exclusive religion than others, there is no interest in diversity of faith. You are Muslim, or you are "kafir". This was highlighted to me on the day of 9/11. It was early in the morning, around 9am, and cheers started echoing down the corridors. Word started to spread and they were all grinning and clapping each other on the backs. These were men and women born and raised here for the most part. The owner wheeled in a big CRT TV and 30-40 of them gathered around BBC news laughing and cheering like Pakistan were in the cricket world cup final. It is not hard to see why large public prayers by followers of a religion perceived as hostile to your very existence can feel less like worship and more like an assertion of dominance. I'm sure there are many good, tolerant Muslim people in this country who mix Western ideals with the muslim faith. People that consider themselves British among all else. But I learned that day that there are less than you think.
Nick Timothy MP@NJ_Timothy

Too many are too polite to say this. But mass ritual prayer in public places is an act of domination. The adhan - which declares there is no god but allah and Muhammad is his messenger - is, when called in a public place, a declaration of domination. Perform these rituals in mosques if you wish. But they are not welcome in our public places and shared institutions. And given their explicit repudiation of Christianity they certainly do not belong in our churches and cathedrals. I am not suggesting everybody at Trafalgar Square last night is an Islamist. But the domination of public places is straight from the Islamist playbook. Trafalgar Square belongs to all of us. It is a national memorial to our independence and our salvation. Last night was not like a televised football match or a St Patrick’s Day celebration. It was an act of domination and therefore division. It shouldn’t happen again.

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Adam Jogee MP
Adam Jogee MP@AJogee·
Eid Mubarak to one and all
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Daniel Hannan
Daniel Hannan@DanielJHannan·
I have had enough of being told what is “un-British” by public intellectuals who barely try to hide their disdain for Britishness.
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