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@WakandaGrey There isn’t any reason not to imo. His character and competence is high enough to warrant unconditional respect form players - communication seems to be his strong point too. Those that don’t, shouldn’t be around imo.

He will find his balance.. that's if he doesn't lose the dressing room before then

You’re free to target what you want man. Personally I’ve align my expectations with the model as it doesn’t cause me to feel intense anger day to day, but people are free to do as they please man. having romans short term expectations without Romans model is a recipe for suffering imo

@objective_cfc This is Chelsea, no? Shouldn’t the target be competing on every front?!

To play devils advocate, away from the emotion of the nature of the PSG exit, they’re currently on track for the seasons expectations with their long term plan in mind. - CL Qualification - Competitive in cups Carabao - Semi FA Cup - Should be at least semis Champions League - R16 On the surface, that’s not horrific. I’d personally only say the season is a failure if they don’t get CL. Even then you could argue reasons as to why with quite a lot of context. Biggest instability is coming from the managerial position at the min. Interested to see what happens both with that area and with summer recruitment. If managerial position stabilised and they’re efficient in the market, I actually expect quite a big quality jump next year, which would again be in alignment with their objectives and the big picture

@CFCSnowy Depends what your expectations are man…

@objective_cfc This is all objective to whether we finish T5 or not. Don’t do that and the season is a failure and we have regressed. (Even 5th is a failure imo) And tbh 4 years into a “project” and finishing 4th being the target is just pathetic and unacceptable for a club like Chelsea.

@Random123582 @GouthamCity Polar different models. Same aim. You’ll only be to objectively judge which is better given the same time period of tenureship - until then it’s all perception and fear A large part of your pain is coming from from Romans expectations with Clearlake’s model Understandably

@GouthamCity @objective_cfc The objective is to get closer to the champions, otherwise what's the point? We aren't in year 1 or 2 anymore. We are in year 4 with 1.5 billion spent, we should already be challenging. You aren't chels if you accept this mediocrity.

@Random123582 My man, you’re vey emotional Im just relaying facts not need to get angry about ffs 😅 This season the target is top 4. You’ll see progressive expeditions year on year.

@objective_cfc So the target is always top 4? We won the CWC, had the perfect chance to go to the next level and ultimately get closer to the top which should be the goal right? Otherwise what's the point of it all? Maybe you can answer this you clearlake agent

@CFCdruw Challenging situation for him. He leads to learn and adapt in record speed to find a balance to win now. Pre season he can start implementing things exactly the way he wants it…

@objective_cfc With how some fans were talking during that preseason, you’d never think we’d go on to win two trophies

Who remembers Chelsea vs Celtic in their first pre season under Maresca… 😅 Chelsea are in that stage now under Rosenior imo. The pain of changing systems mid season without time to work on it on the training pitch.

@Wayne95891037 I’m not telling you to do anything. I’m just saying any noise in between is just perception. Mine included

@objective_cfc So in essence I stay silent for 15 years and just comment then? Absolute nonsense

Issue is when you run a club on fear based leadership and short term thinking you’re fucked when you take the figure heads away as there is no infrastructure and no systems. …you’re relying on individuals to make it work. This is why Roman Abramovich’s leadership should be objectively questioned and praised/criticised accordingly rather than unanimous rose ringed glasses. United has the same issue when they removed Gill and Ferguson. It’s like buying a house that looks incredible. Then finding out it has no foundations. Got to tear that shit down and start again otherwise the entire thing will collapse… Not what people want. But it is what is needed for the long term greater good of the club imo.

@Amazing1999ask Statements arent part of club expectations this year man - they’re bonuses

@objective_cfc The only way to make a statement this season is by winning the fa cup, and for that we'll have to beat at least two of arsenal/city/liverpool

Media having a field day Not seeing this shit for Manchester City. I like this stuff tbh, players should be shown it - causes the group to galvanise like last season.

@Criss_Crossv2 Biggest issue is constant stylistic change. Club have to really decide long term what style and identity they want the team to be On a spectrum; Arsenal or PSG

@objective_cfc This part of the issue, asking fans to be patient each time a new manager needs to go through growing pains

@willreyner T5 will be done when it’s mathematically impossible and don’t buy the ‘stop trying’ thing but you do you man. All good.

@objective_cfc Win and t5 is manageable. Lose and its over + the squad will stop trying

Anyone here supporting Chelsea this weekend or is it a pretty unified hate watch? 🫨 I am.

@Chels1an Nativity comes from lack of experience sadly. Same with young players. Needs to learn fast.

@objective_cfc Naive from Rosenior

@Wayne95891037 It’s not silly man. It’s a story about success that perfectly explains how two approaches can look differently in the short term and long term Judgement cannot be placed until the race is finished Enzo wants a new contract imo.

@objective_cfc The tortoise or the hare argument is incredibly silly ngl, we have a good core of players (Enzo, Caicedo, Palmer etc) who says they are willing to wait and sit around for a bit of ambition to be shown? Enzo is already being linked with a move away and if he does, argument is null

@etta_jnr The conclusion is being derived a pre conceived opinion though. Thats the point man.

@objective_cfc Nahh they are holding my smoke They are incompetent

@etta_jnr It’s an assumption and we’ll never know man

@objective_cfc Yeah I understand But these directors have to hold more of the blame

Rosenior getting hammered by the British media at min. Howe isn’t getting shit after dropping £700m and getting beat 7-2 😅 Pep is getting away with it despite having a horror show domestically and in CL despite dropping over £500m in two windows.

@etta_jnr He wasn’t blameless imo We live in co creative universe man

@objective_cfc Why the fuck did they sack maresca

@papa_yooo @TBLCFC 😅

@objective_cfc @TBLCFC The last part wasn't necessary 😂

The thing that makes Chelsea so frustrating is how close we feel at times. For example, Spurs (who I’m not trying to pick on), their fans are probably so numb to how it is, it’s not frustration or anger. With us, this ‘so close yet so far’ thing makes it infuriating.

@offsidetrapfc11 Objectively and factually there is year on gets progress though man.

@objective_cfc This is beautifully put into perspective. I think the frustration comes from not seeing progress from last year

@prettys50452851 Talk to me my friend because that’s strong words and unnecessary tbh

You are double face individual

@Random123582 The issue here is your expectations don’t match the clubs this season But the clubs expectations for this season with the long term vision in mind have been very public. So it can’t be BS 😅 It’s a fact ffs

@objective_cfc Absolute BS, the target should not have been top 4, if that's the target every season, then what's the point? It should have been to get closer to the top 2 spaces yet they have gone backwards.