Proxyy
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Blue cause too many people are too stupid and will press blue especially kids who can’t comprehend future risks or babies that press it cause blue is a nice color.
In a society where everyone presses red everyone having that mindset would lead to many with disabilities or disadvantages being culled from society eventually for being weak. Including people like MrBeast with his medical conditions, and humanity would be worse off. Those who press red are usually just too short sighted to understand some people need help and jump at the first chance to live like a cockroach with only a survival instinct and no consideration past that. A world where blue is under 50% is not worth living in anyways.
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Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@shrimpala @MrBeast Ok, so I can pick red and nobody dies?
Zero risk, optimal outcome achieved.
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There is a 98,539-vote poll of nerdy online folks already that cam out 57.9% blue.
If you still press red, you’re worrying about a chance of one in a number with about 500 zeros.
Winning the lottery 60 times in a row.
If you’re already there, why not also think about your next minute of breathing containing no oxygen molecules, roughly one in a number with over 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 zeros.
Ok, that was silly. Sorry. 😮💨
You do not need to not worry about either, for the same reason.
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Make this same vote public.
Everyone votes one at a time.
Everyone before you has voted red.
How do you vote?
Now, imagine the person in front of you was the first person to vote blue. Any change?
How many blues in front of you would it take if it were public for you to sign up for death if those behind you don't?
Now what if you were signing someone else's death warrant instead of your own?
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@Thomas_asking @MrBeast The problem is of course that picking blue does not guarantee they live.
If red wins then all you will have done by picking blue is add one more death to the tally.
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@irthyfour68495 @TopGyaru Everybody left gets affordable housing though...
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@TopGyaru If red wins a sizeable portion of the population dies dealing a massive blow to society as a whole
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What are the downsides for pressing red?
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@TheCartoonLoon Assuming all votes are essentially randomized your child has 3/4 (75%) outcomes leading to surviving.
Choosing blue gives you 1/2 (50%) outcomes of surviving.
Is it really optimal to choose an option that's more likely to leave your child as an orphan than both survive?
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So here is the thing Red voters
Can you trust your children to pick red to save themselves?
A vote for blue either ensures they live or you die trying to save them
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@BullandBaird Do I scale down proportionally?
Being 12" tall with millions of dollars could be kind of cool but not if my width stays the same.
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You have a button you can press.
Each time you press it you get $1 million but you also lose 1 inch of height.
how many times are you pressing it?
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@catboyautist If you know that the majority of people will press blue then your vote is irrelevant because blue will win no matter what.
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If the group was only informed participants, 18 or over, with no disabilities, I would press red in a heartbeat.
However you have to consider that a large chunk of the earths population are not logicians and cannot work out game theory or just randomly have a 50% chance of pressing blue as a baby would.
If you want to save these people, and you know that the vast majority of other informed people want to save these people, then blue becomes the only choice.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@DerekPederson3 Red makes even more sense at lower thresholds.
Easier for blues to win so the risk of anyone dying is much lower.
Less people dying if blue still loses.
Either way I'm not going to intentionally put myself at risk because people decided to press a 'maybe die' button.
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I tried to steelman the Red position and then a bunch of people in the replies are like “no I would vote Red at any threshold.”
Oh well.
Derek Pederson 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇻🇪@DerekPederson3
Okay, for real, I like mocking Team Red but it's not as simple as people suggest. Presumably, almost everyone would vote Red if the requisite threshold were 99% and almost everyone would vote Blue if the requisite threshold were 1%.
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@HairyLeggdHarpy Red, the data indicates high likelihood everyone will survive regardless of my vote.
On the off chance blue loses, I still don't die.
The only way red is the wrong decision is if everyone else votes on a perfect 50/50 split and I have the deciding vote which is very unlikely.
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Just before you press your button of choice, you're informed that in almost every hypothetical trial run of this poll, whether online or real life, the population has chosen blue above red.
You fact check this. It's true.
Your loved ones have already voted.
What do you press?
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@sip_of_coffee4 @waitbutwhy I think a majority of people would choose red.
If I'm right then blue is just a suicide button.
If I'm wrong everyone lives.
The only way picking blue would be a benefit is if the rest of the world splits exactly 50/50 and I have the deciding vote which is very unlikely.
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@waitbutwhy Blue voter here to explain my thought process. I saw everyone survives if blue is 50%>, with red there's no guarantee everyone survives which made the choice easy (and I thought obvious). Curious to hear what a red voter thought?
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Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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