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Michael Braithwaite

Michael Braithwaite

@ExiledBusker

Ink-stained wretch. Was once a biologist & statistician with a PhD and all that. Tech is my day job now. Jew.

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Michael Braithwaite
Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@ilias_hdz @PhilipProudfoot Before 1948 they called themselves Palestinians. Most Israelis are from the region. There were fully arabized jews living there and in 1492 many Sephardic Jews settled there and mixed with them. By mid 19thC Jews were the largest group of people in Jerusalem.
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IliasHDZ
IliasHDZ@ilias_hdz·
@ExiledBusker @PhilipProudfoot How would you call Jews who lived in historic Palestine. Obviously, back then, Israel didn't exist either. So it wouldn't make much sense to call them israelis. Especially considering israelis are mostly not from historic Palestine in contemporary history.
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Philip Proudfoot
Philip Proudfoot@PhilipProudfoot·
Today’s Palestinians were once Jewish, then some became Christians, then later they became Muslims. The great stupidity of statements like this is that, if Israelis even want to make this argument, then it means they’ve committed a genocide against their ancient ancestors.
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The Jewish people are indigenous to Israel.

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Dianthia
Dianthia@chickenwagun·
@ExiledBusker @Crashandmemes a Brit Jamaican, a Brit Congoglese person. All those people have different cultures and experiences unlike Black Americans who only identify w their country/local region
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Michael Braithwaite
Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@GenieFromTheB @PhilipProudfoot That’s the question isn’t it? How do we have an accommodation that’s fair to all. In Israel proper there are Arab Muslims with equal rights to Jews. But elsewhere the Palestinians make constant war on Israel and refuse all peace offers. Every war they fight they lose more & more.
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Genie
Genie@GenieFromTheB·
@ExiledBusker @PhilipProudfoot Some of you left. Some remained. Can Palestinian refugees who left during Nakba come back on their territories by the same logic? There are Palestinians living continuously in Israel, so they should have the same right of return as jews have, right?
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Michael Braithwaite
Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@seaplaneguy @Nadira_ali12 Judeans are Israelites. It is entirely unambiguous to say that as it is a plain fact. Not sure why your tiny brain can’t accept this basic and unarguable truth.
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Seaplaneguy@seaplaneguy·
@ExiledBusker @Nadira_ali12 In 930 BC ancient Israel divided into "Israel" (lost ten tribes) and Judea (Judah and Benjamin). The ten tribes were known as Israel and Judahites were in Judea. This is basic history that all should know. The name Israel does NOT apply to Judahites. Name theft...fraud.
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Nadira Ali🇵🇸
Nadira Ali🇵🇸@Nadira_ali12·
"The Romans occupied England in the 5th century, so anyone of Roman descent has a historical claim to the land." It's one of the best sketches I've ever seen, it is so accurate and highlights the situation in Palestine.
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Michael Braithwaite
Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@ilias_hdz @PhilipProudfoot Jewish Palestinians are now called Israelis, but yes. There has never been a country called Palestine. Palestine is the exonym for Israel and later for Judea and Samaria.
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IliasHDZ
IliasHDZ@ilias_hdz·
@ExiledBusker @PhilipProudfoot Jewish Palestinians and other Palestinians probably share the overwhelming majority of ancestry yet they have been divided due to colonialism.
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Seaplaneguy
Seaplaneguy@seaplaneguy·
@ExiledBusker @Nadira_ali12 The land of the "yehudi" is called Judea, and people in that land as citizens are Judean, NOT Israelites. The name Israel cannot be used for Judeans. It is fraud.
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Michael Braithwaite
Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@Parodyjeffx Are you allowed to torch Palestinians on an airplane do some reason? Is this only permission business class or something? I’m confused.
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Parody Jeff
Parody Jeff@Parodyjeffx·
Jewish passengers flying from New York to Tel Aviv cover the airplane screens. Because electricity is forbidden on Shabbat. Yet torching Palestinians alive and kidnapping their children is somehow perfectly allowed.
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Dianthia
Dianthia@chickenwagun·
@Crashandmemes bc Africans Brits are literally first gen maybe second gen in England with strong cultural ties to their respective group. They didn’t go through ethnogensis like BA who became a single people through centuries of shared struggle and survival. English blacks are just immigrants/
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Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@DavidKlion @steveplotnicki Archaeology proves that Israelites (Jews & Samaritans) evolved as a distinct people from the Canaanites in the hills around Jerusalem. The fairy stories in the bible don’t mean anything.
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David Klion@DavidKlion·
@steveplotnicki IMO the whole question is irrelevant. The organizing principle of the modern Israeli state is that Palestinians, who are unambiguously indigenous, do not have a right to their own land, while people whose indigeneity is *at best* rooted in tenuous ancient claims inherently do.
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Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@DavidKlion Nope. It says that Jacob and his family were from Canaan, and their son Joseph migrated to Egypt to escape a drought where he and his people were enslaved. Moses leads them out of slavery and back to Canaan.
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P B D@redamon8·
@ExiledBusker @Nadira_ali12 That happened 1000+ years ago. We arw in the year 2026. Civilized countries dont engage in ethnic cleansing and murder.
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Seaplaneguy
Seaplaneguy@seaplaneguy·
@ExiledBusker @Nadira_ali12 Yes, but Israel is where Ephraim, Dan, Naphtili and the other ten tribes lived. Using the name Israel is identity theft. Jews should call themselves Judeans, NOT Israelis. The fraud starts with the name.
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Michael Braithwaite
Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@au44865 @AChen50474715 @Nadira_ali12 The bible is not a historical document. And it says Abraham comes from Ur. Abraham is the traditional patriarch of both Israelites and Arabs. Archaeology tells a different story and proves Jews are indigenous and Arabs aren’t.
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Arc insanity
Arc insanity@Arc_insanity·
@ExiledBusker @Nadira_ali12 Jews are not indigenous to Palestine, Israel, Judeah or w/e you want to call it. Not only is this historical record, their own book says it too.
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Michael Braithwaite
Michael Braithwaite@ExiledBusker·
@DouglasDow8 @Nadira_ali12 Exodus has nothing to do with peace negotiations. The Palestinians have been offered their own state by Israel on multiple occasions and have always refused. And that is a fact.
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Douglas Dow
Douglas Dow@DouglasDow8·
@ExiledBusker @Nadira_ali12 You're a dumb cunt. The Israelis have refused. ( Exodus 34:12 ) It's who they are and why their aspirations to have a State will always come to nought.
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Jelajahi

@ilias_hdz @PhilipProudfoot @chickenwagun @Crashandmemes @GenieFromTheB @seaplaneguy @Nadira_ali12 @Parodyjeffx