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@45_art_warks @Agooduser2 @thegameslinger1 Okay so if they use Tech Jacket more in the show and give her stuff to do what will your issue be?

@FaekBot @Agooduser2 @thegameslinger1 They don’t. The point is that the change is what creates the accidental effect of tokenization since it’s for such a cynical reason. If techjacket was originally a woman I’d say the exact same if they changed them to a man.

This finna sound bad but this doesn't need a woman dawg

@Propmasterpro @JElPerdido @PreciusTeardrop @offmodescarab Even moreso than Marvel, I think DC has what I call the “genius is commonplace” issue. I don’t think Peter’s genius really stands out in a world where Shocker makes new gauntlets with prison scraps, and certainly not in a world where a guy makes a wand that control the weather.

@Propmasterpro @JElPerdido @PreciusTeardrop @offmodescarab Idk about top 10, especially if we count villains.

the concept of Superman struggling vs Doctor Octopus

@thatstarwarsgrl Brother I hope you’re willing to look inward because it’s extremely easy to get

Hollywoods obsession with Zendaya is something I’ll never understand

@cartmansfinsta Eh, I think the Hand is enough of a general enemy they can be used without assuming Daredevil. Not quite the same ballpark, but it’s like Hydra showing up and going “but no Cap?”.

@Higuruma_H @thegameslinger1 Do you think that male Tech Jacket would bring in new fans?

@FaekBot @thegameslinger1 Yeah no one’s gonna stop watching, but it’s not bringing any new fans

@Higuruma_H @thegameslinger1 Right but my point is the show already has fans, I don’t think they’re gonna stop watching because they find out a girl was a guy in the comic. It certainly didn’t happen with Shrinking Rae/Ray

@FaekBot @thegameslinger1 Yeah, that wasn’t from gender bending

@45_art_warks @Agooduser2 @thegameslinger1 I mean the original guy is basically there for aesthetics, he’s a plot device that ends up being not all that important. Why does a woman need more “justification” for being there than the man already did if he’s not affecting the story much as it is?

@Agooduser2 @FaekBot @thegameslinger1 That you shouldn’t change a scene or story to add things for the sake of diversity because it ultimately tokenizes them and puts them there for aesthetics like a prop.

@Fenrirtheicewo1 But within Invincible, the story being adapted, pretty much none of that is brought up or referenced and the guy speaks maybe 10 times 😭

Tech Jacket's story is literally of a little boy becoming a MAN! Basically, with undertones of a space opera of a young knight saving the princess and the Realm with hilarious undertones and a lot of pain that specifically affects a young man. This was a story and character for teenage boys, so predominantly MALE! Like his girlfriend going lesbian and dumping him without telling him because he could "preform" in bed or the whole world shitting on him no matter what he does.

@Peashooter_96 @breakingbaht You don’t think that perhaps the guy who wasn’t coming up with the ideas to solve their problems being the “clear leader” was a bit weird in the first place? Lol malicious hatred 😂 your brain is legitimately cooked

@FaekBot @breakingbaht Regardless you get the point hopefully. Fred was the clear leader, and theres a distinction between shaggy's playful idiocy over outright malicious hatred of white men that you can guarantee will be brought forth led by the 2 empowered girlbosses.

I like how we consider a lack of racial animosity right from day 1 to be some kind of relief. Only for it to probably get rug pulled, anyway, when they realize that the plot is that the entire gang needs to be led around by a 13 year old non who rolls her eyes at their shenanigans and incompetence.

@Peashooter_96 @breakingbaht I mean Shaggy was already that, and Fred has pretty consistently been portrayed as more of a charisma guy that doesn’t really come up with the ideas since at least the 90s. Even the live action movies doing it were pointing out that’s sort of the original show too.

@breakingbaht If they don't shoehorn a race swap in you can guarantee that Velma or daphne will be girlbossing the gang and saving the day while shaggy and Fred will be the dumb and bafoonish white males who can barely tie their shoes.

@Dornfanboy @Parzival_jay So Peter is not physically in that temple listening to that rabbi? Cmon bro, what are you doing 😭

@FaekBot @Parzival_jay that’s not Peter stupid that’s Roger Echberg Peter Parker is way more horrifically wasp than Ben Grimm, the bot npc continues to cope lmao

“He’s not Jewish” yes he literally is

@Higuruma_H @thegameslinger1 Lol the show is one of the biggest things on TV, the comic was doing like 15k a month. I see you’ve just run out of things to say. That’s fine, have a good one man.

@FaekBot @thegameslinger1 Gender bending NEVER brings new fans, this has been proven time and time again.

@maxedout216 @AddictKE_ It’s a popular headcannon. I think it mostly comes from TT Robin having a sort of similar design B Robin, and Batman showing up in this issue of the TT comic.

@AddictKE_ That's literally not true this came out after teen titans and couldn't have robin in it cause of teen titans robin why do y'all just say shit

this is the animated batman who adopted and trained teen titans (2003) robin btw.

@Dornfanboy @Parzival_jay What’s your objectivity? Him being in a church before even though we see he’s also been in temple? Him not having a stereotypically Jewish name even though the company’s most famously Jewish superhero doesn’t either?

@FaekBot @Parzival_jay okay so he’s not objectively canonically jewish than he’s probably a wasp because who the fuck isn’t with a name like that lol

@Higuruma_H @thegameslinger1 So of course more people watch the show. Would them liking this new version then make it a net positive?

@FaekBot @thegameslinger1 Except it’s not neutral. They changed a character that was loved by a lot of people just the way they were

@Higuruma_H @thegameslinger1 I’m sure some would say a woman adds a different perspective, but I largely just think in any group of 7ppl, the odds of none of them being women are kinda silly. But sure let’s say it does help anything. You can’t name a way it hurts, so if it’s value neutral what’s the problem?

@FaekBot @thegameslinger1 Does a woman add to it in any way? If there never was one what’s the point in changing Tech Jacket to add one?

@Dornfanboy @Parzival_jay And I get why you say it would’ve been stated, but I also get why suits decided that while that’s fine for one guy on the F4 or one of the X-men, they didn’t want their flagship character being blatantly any religion/ethnicity.

@Dornfanboy @Parzival_jay Anyway yeah he appears to largely be not very practicing, and he knows Christians so he’s been to church sure. Also, it’s not like Grimm is a particularly Jewish name man lmao