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@Historianluce

Here we explore history, war, faith, and culture from the beginning of the Roman to the fall 1453. If you like what you see, give me a follow

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History in the Light@Historianluce·
Crassus v. Spartacus: A Duel for the Ages We know what made Spartacus legendary, killing multiple senators and destroyer of Legions. What about Crassus? He was born fantastically rich but fell on the wrong side of the Marius-Sulla rivalry when the Marian faction was triumphant. His father was executed by the Marians, and eventually, in 85 BC, he was forced to hide in Spain, reduced to living in a cave for most of the year. When cracks appeared in the Marian regime, Crassus raised a force of 2500 men and eventually joined Sulla's army, where he served at the same time as Spartacus! They almost certainly never met but were fellow soldiers in the same army. While Spartacus was accused of crimes that put him and his woman into slavery, Crassus thrived. In 82 BC, he commanded the victorious right wing of Sulla's army at the Battle of Colline Gate, which won Sulla Rome. Rutlessly exploiting Sulla's purges, he gobbled up estates all over Italy from Marius's supporters and exploited business opportunities like buying a burning building cheaply before allowing his men to put the fire out. Crassus was battle-tested, ruthless, and tough in a way that no other enemy of Spartacus had been. As one of the richest, if not the richest, men in Rome, Crassus had his estates plundered by Spartacus, and he lost valuable slaves to Spartacus's march. It is easy to imagine a bit of personal vendetta at play because Spartacus and his men hit supporters of Sulla hard. Regardless in Pompey's absence, there was not a more qualified man to hunt Spartacus down and put an end to his rampage! The showdown would live up to the billing!
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Everrett L. Thornton@everrettlamar·
@Historianluce @Clint_Davey1 It's possible to tell your ally that attacking the Austro-Hungarian empire in defense of panslavic solidarity does not trigger the alliance because it appears like you are the aggressor. Italy made a similar call. There is a reason France didn't publicly state their intentions
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Clint Warren-Davey@Clint_Davey1·
Max Hastings is one of very few modern historians to claim that the First World War was justified and that the Allies had to fight it to stop the expansion of German and Austro-Hungarian militarism and authoritarianism. I tend to think, like most historians, that it was a waste and could have been avoided through diplomatic means. For example, the Allies could have just let Austria have Serbia.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
@everrettlamar @Clint_Davey1 Yes what I am saying is Russia had backed down twice before the Tsar didn’t know what would happen if he backed down again. For France being shown to the world as for a worthless ally also could have dire consequences. They were trapped with few if any viable options.
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Everrett L. Thornton
Everrett L. Thornton@everrettlamar·
@Historianluce @Clint_Davey1 Unknowable. Does inaction trigger another revolution, can the tsar weather the indignation, was there a lesser option available (embargo, funnel weapons). Who knows but I think Nicholas would've wavered without a french guarantee. He tried to avoid Germany even with the guarantee
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
Exactly right!
Rome@ConsulofRome_

The Roman state grew over time from that of a single city into an empire encompassing many peoples. Over time the identity of those people changed as they were romanised and this was especially the case after the empire embraced Christianity together. Rome, the city, became Rome, the empire. When the western provinces fell away from the empire from the 5th to 8th centuries what remained was merely a smaller empire, not a new state. Furthermore, the Romans had a unique relationship to what is dismissed here as ‘eastern Greek’. The ancient Romans claimed descent from Ancient Greeks, recognised various waves of Ancient Greek migration to Rome, and recognised the importance of Greek culture to Rome. One emperor even called Greek ‘one of our languages’. At everyone point in Roman history the Roman state was different to the centuries prior, but as Claudius said ‘everything which we now hold to be of the highest antiquity, was once new.’

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Utz@UtkuSez91663042·
@Historianluce @RomeInTheEast Um if your grandparents came from it (and many in Turkey are descended from them) and if all the founders of modern Turkey came from there, you might say something like that.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
@everrettlamar @Clint_Davey1 But France had no choice how could they deal with Germany if they beat Russia on their own and what value is an alliance if it just demands you back down.
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CCOEJ@CCOEJ·
@Historianluce Mohammed has to make the top 10 based on world impact alone.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
@ModernCeasar Then again, the Romans at Cannae had insane discipline and were very dutiful, and yet they all died. Leadership is an important variable.
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Modern Caesar@ModernCeasar·
Gaul was conquered through insane Roman discipline. Roman legionaries were the most professional army at the time. Through relentless training and awareness of their duty this combination became impossible to stop. Discipline and duty is what carries the world.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
@Chestolooo He had, in the show, more of a redemptive circle where he completed the arc and then circled back to the beginning and died a villain.
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CHESTER@Chestolooo·
The ultimate “how it started vs. how it ended.” Jaime Lannister once mocked Jon Snow’s vows, treating the Wall as a punishment meant for fools and outcasts. Years later, he arrives at Winterfell ready to risk his life defending the realm from the very threat he once dismissed as nonsense. His redemption arc comes full circle the moment he finally understands the dead were always real.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
@rexturbinado67 Irony and justice of how Venice fell compared to what they engineered for Constantinople is the purpose of the post.
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Beaux Regawd@rexturbinado67·
@Historianluce Ironic you mention Constantinople in 1204. Venice was the main reason that happened.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
On this day, a 1,000-year-old Republic Fell Venice had once ruled the seas, humbled empires, and sacked Constantinople. Changes in trade in the East and military threats from the West had eventually reduced Venice to a shadow of herself. For most of the 18th century, Venice had tried to preserve itself through the practice of neutrality, and its military force wore away to practically nothing. There was no rallying around the ancient flag or religion in the face of Atheistic France. Venice arrested the only men to fire a shot in her defense and resigned herself to fight with protest letters, pleading, and passivity to save her. On May 11th, the people in the streets turned on their own city and convinced their own leaders that they "were no longer safe in their own beds." Most of them fled. On May 12th, 1797, less than half of the Maggior Consiglio met and voted to dissolve the 1,100-year-old Republic without a fight. They didn't have a quorum, and so the dissolution was illegal, but no one cared anymore. Napoleon treated the "rebels" who took the city with contempt and looted the city for nearly a year until the Austrians briefly retook the city. Unlike 1204, when Constantinople fell, a crime that still lives in infamy, or the final siege of the Queen of Cities that still lives in legend when Venice fell, few took note.
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John Scott@Tebow4802·
@Historianluce @charlescwcooke @JonahDispatch That’s true, and maybe I’m just jaded but legitimacy ultimately doesn’t matter if nobody can stop you, power is what you can get away with. And i don’t trust voters to hold politicians accountable unfortunately.
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Charles C. W. Cooke@charlescwcooke·
This is this week’s lie: Willfully misrepresenting Purcell to invent a double-standard that doesn’t exist. Last week’s lie was that the VA Supreme Court waited until Dems had won to strike down the referendum because they’re partisan, rather than because Dems had asked them to.
Governor Newsom Press Office@GovPressOffice

The Supreme Court’s legitimacy depends on providing “Equal Justice Under Law,” as the courthouse says. When the Supreme Court rules one way when it hurts Democrats and another way when it helps Republicans, it’s not doing law — it’s doing raw power politics. Americans are rightly questioning why it deserves such power.

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History in the Light@Historianluce·
@ConsulofRome_ I still think if Justinian had not gone after what seemed like the low-hanging fruit of Italy at the time, historians would be scathing about the missed opportunity of reclaiming Italy.
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Rome@ConsulofRome_·
The economic aspect of Justinian’s reconquest is often not given due attention. When one looks at more than just a clumsy map of territory, it becomes clear that Justinian targeted the most developed and prosperous parts of the west.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
That is what I am talking about, the memory of them being gone was the old canard that Uriah the Hittite from the Bible was fictional because Hittites aren't real. I am not an expert, but in the book I read on them, it showed signs of surviving Hittite people for longer after the Bronze Age collapse than I had thought before. Not as a political power, just as a people.
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K0tuz@k0tuz·
@Historianluce @HeraldOfRome Not really, they had a Kingdom after the empire fell, a short lived near the border with Syria and after VII century B.C we do not hear of Hittites anymore, unless you can enlighten us.
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Herald of Rome
Herald of Rome@HeraldOfRome·
Did the Turks find Hittites, Phrygians and Lydians waiting for them when they showed up in Anatolia? Are the Hittites in the room with us right now? Also Phrygian was so close to Greek it was basically Spanish vs Italian.
Mete_Kosar@metehankosar19

@Kain_Deacon @TheDataHubX Anatolia belonged to Rome. Before them, Greeks only held coastal cities like Ephesus and Miletus. The rest was ruled by Lydians, Phrygians, and Hittites.+

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John Scott
John Scott@Tebow4802·
@Historianluce @charlescwcooke @JonahDispatch Unless what you want is against the law lol, then you have to reshape the court, a trend I fear both sides are heading for, dems already there, but when/if scotus rules against Trump on birthright citizenship the gop may be more willing to go after the court.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
@x_Aurelion That early proto-capitalism in republican form was insanely potent for a time. Militarily and economically.
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Aurelion@x_Aurelion·
@Historianluce Venice is one of the more interesting naval empires in history, imo. The most impressive thing about them is that they didn't need to rely on individual genius. There is no Venetian Caesar or Napoleon. They built systems that lasted for Millennia.
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
Charlemagne as "Father of Europe" on steroids. Augustus was a brilliant Emperor of the Romans, and was Charlemagne a brilliant warlord of the Germans. Charlemagne stabilized, but Western civilization and spread it; he did not invent it. Augustus transformed a dysfunctional Republic into perhaps the most consequential Empire in history.
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AD Tippet@BelAves·
Not certain who was a better and emperor. And all he had to do after adoption was defeat Brutus, Cassius, Sextus and most of all Antony who began as far more powerful, especially after Philippi. Is this just click bait?
Sosthène 🇫🇷🇦🇽 Ère de la Souffrance@_Sosthene_

Charlemagne is the founding father of Europe. Augustus, on the other hand, was a fox who just got lucky by being adopted by Caesar, and he wasn’t even the best emperor Rome ever had.

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History in the Light@Historianluce·
Arab energy at the time and wins on other fronts likely lead to longer-term high-intensity conflict whose outcome would be very hard to predict in the case of Yarmouk. In Alexander's case, the way the various powers in Italy responded to his presence, and how he allowed them to respond, is the key to the whole conflict. Macedonian limitations in mobilization, Punic naval superiority, and Roman manpower are also fundamental.
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AD Tippet@BelAves·
@Historianluce Always the issue with what ifs is all the other factors. One of my faves is the Eastern Romans win at Yarmuk. But what if the Arabs regroup with an Alliance with the Sassanids and a big German tribe?
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History in the Light@Historianluce·
Republican Rome was made of hard men. Some lunatics. No one would make light work of them.
🏛 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧 🏛@nonregemesse

On the matter of the hypothetical war between Rome and Alexander it should not be forgotten that the Romans of this time were insane. Titus Manlius executed his own son to maintain military discipline. Decius Mus sacrificed his life by charging into the enemy alone so the gods would grant him victory and his father may have done the same. Papirius Cursor pretended to contemplate a peace offer and then rushed the enemy with his army. Romans of the late 4th century seem to have been obsessed with avoiding, and perhaps even traumatised by the cultural memory of, the humiliation of the sack of Rome in the early 4th century. Whether they would have defeated Alexander is another matter, but it is clear he would have found a far different foe in the consuls of Rome than in the King of Kings.

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History in the Light@Historianluce·
@twit_grim @Clint_Davey1 I get what you are saying, but it is politically impossible, like France allowing Germany and the Habsburgs to win a brief and bloody war with Russia on their own.
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grimy@twit_grim·
@Historianluce @Clint_Davey1 Germany should have just used the crisis to annex the Austrian-Hungarian empire. So much of what went wrong is that people didn't realise that war had fundamentally changed.
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@everrettlamar @Clint_Davey1 @UtkuSez91663042 @RomeInTheEast @CCOEJ @ModernCeasar @Chestolooo @elonmusk