
jetbrane
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@ZacharyGarris And thus dies the premise that Clergy have some thought areas in which they should not venture, as if God's mind doesn't speak to every area of life.
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Presbyterian minister John Holt Rice wrote in 1832 that pastors “should be able to keep an even pace, with the best taught of their fellow-citizens.”
For “when intellectual men constantly witness ignorance and inferiority in religious teachers, they will rarely fail to think of religion itself with contempt.”
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Revisionism is retarded.
So Joel & Co says, “Protestantism is the tragic reaction to the abuses of Rome… because the Jews infiltrated the Roman Church.”
Except there’s no serious scholarship--Catholic, Protestant, or secular--that explains the Reformation in those terms. It’s not even a minority view. It’s fully outside the bounds of historical method.
And the most retarded statement I’ve ever heard: “Atheism is a Jewish project.”
Except modern atheism develops out of multiple streams: Enlightenment rationalism (e.g., David Hume), Materialism and political philosophy (e.g., Karl Marx), and Existentialism (e.g., Nietzsche).
These figures disagree with each other on practically everything except criticism of religion. They’re not part of a coordinated “Jewish project,” and they’re certainly not unified by ethnicity. Also historically, atheism has appeared in multiple civilizations including ancient Greek philosophy and strands of Indian thought.
It’s interesting to watch men who claim to be Reformed abandon the doctrine of God’s providence the moment history gets uncomfortable.
Instead of confessing that God sovereignly governs all things, even the rise of error, corruption, and unbelief, they reach for conspiracies to explain what Scripture already accounts for: the sinful reasoning of fallen man.
To suggest that events like the Protestant Reformation or the rise of atheism require some hidden ethnic infiltration is not a defense of the faith. It is a denial, in practice, that God ordains whatsoever comes to pass.
This is not apologetics, it’s an unsound conspiratorial mind and fear mongering framing everything as a Jewish scapegoat.
2 Tim 1:7
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
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@RealTimHarris @peterpeccavi Calvin saw it also. Wrote a small treatise of the problem with the Bagels.
Did Luther and Calvin not believe in God's providence? Were Luther and Calvin vile believers in conspiracy?
I don't know who this Peter chap is, but, like so many others he is clueless on this subject.
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@peterpeccavi Being an "atheist" does not get you kicked out of the synagogue, provided you have loyalty to the "jewish people," who collectively are their real god.
What seems like taking the Lord's name is not regarded as such by them, since it is just mocking the goys.
Luther saw it.
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Please... spread the news.
It's a blessing that a hate group would hate Christ's church. I mean after all, Jesus Himself said, "If they hated me, they will hate you also."
Thanks Zrim.
Give my love to the family
Steve Zrimec@ZrimecSteve
@elimcgowan @jetbrane Rabbi Bret’s church is listed as hate group, adds up lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/loc…
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@jetbrane I was glad to see you mentioned too, been a hot second
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Calvin Robinson is just another Papist... and Webbon is just another misguided soul who has no courage to stand up for the Protestant faith.
ironink.org/2026/04/webbon…
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Between this video and the one with Jake Shields, it’s clear that @JoelWebbon won’t ever really stand up for something to even a co-host. @calvinrobinson is basically calling him a heretic and Joel just sits there.
Cowards.
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Because if it doesn't it is promoting false religion.
Governments promoting religion is an inescapable concept.
James Baird@james_d_baird
government must promote true religion
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@elimcgowan I'd prefer the world to be full of Corey Mahlers as opposed to E-lie McGowans.
I think, for a Lutheran, Mahler is a great blessing. Being Reformed I don't agree with his Lutheranism. Nor do I agree w/ all his sundry views.
Nice try though E-lie.
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@elimcgowan @TaxSlaveDave @ket38111 E-lie the slanderer complaining about dehumanizing "even or enemies."
Ironies never cease.
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I have not read the whole Reformed Christian Politics report yet. I only read the opening for the most part, which I believe Wolfe wrote.
But I will say this -- Groff is imputing things to Michael that are not true. Not the terms themselves, but the "evilness" of them.
We should recognize the reality of races of mankind, all coming from Adam (of one blood of course), and we should recognize that the Jews are characteristically evil, and have been under God's judgment and partial hardening. I just quoted Matthew Poole yesterday saying that in his day, they called someone with an evil character "a Turk or Jew". Yes, we may differ as to precisely what the racial distinctions look like, and what the evil of the Jews looks like, and how to address these matters in a righteous way in terms of politics, etc. I certainly affirm that all nations and their peoples improve when they turn to the Lord, and I believe that will lead, especially over generations, to an improvement on the whole man, body and soul. I do not know anyone, Michael included, who denies that we should love all mankind, in its proper order, and that we desire the Jews and all races to be saved.
But if the effect of the Reformed Christian Politics report is that you cannot believe in the reality of races and racial differences and traits, and that you cannot note the wickedness of many/most Jews (yes, God still graciously saves some Jewish persons, and praise God for that), then the report has accomplished little.
To put it bluntly, if a "trade-off" is done where people receive the Reformed Christian Politics report as allowing for God's moral law to be applied in politics and in our governance, so long as we deny that the United States was a nation founded and settled by White Christian men, and that therefore the nation particularly and especially belongs to the posterity of those men and their families, then the report will not be able to adequately apply God's law to our needs and context in 21st century USA. If the reception of the report requires us to still not be able to note the particular vices of all peoples, including the Jews, then once again the moral law will not be able to be very effectively applied to the needs of our nation.
Do not take that trade-off.
For if that is the end result, then yes, this has been too much capitulating to the liberalizing and egalitarian faction in the PCA. And by faction, I mean probably 90% of the PCA, to one degree or another.
Michael Spangler@spanglermt
From @ZGroff in his reluctant commendation of “Reformed Christian Politics.” Sum: “Don’t worry, they’re not real Nationalists.”
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There is a school out there who have a form of Christian Nationalism but deny the power and essence thereof.
Michael Spangler@spanglermt
One of the authors pressured Groff into writing this, and now they are all eagerly reposting it. Through this shameless moderate they found a way to cancel racists and antisemites while maintaining a “right-wing” image. This is precisely the “dancing for the left” that I warned of. They’ve shown all of you their character, but I fear most of you are not willing to see it.
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@james_d_baird If you think this reflects well on the Reformed world... Sigh.
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