@alcibiades5410 @clemferguson I said mass of people not every individual also see what I wrote to the other reply I got
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@Fine_Feels @clemferguson Engels and Lenin, famously incapable of being "revolutionary subjects."
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1. I can almost guarantee most American leftists don’t have an accountant
2. Does it matter if doctors are proletariat or not? In what world are you not going to need doctors?
grow up@littlecuckball
american "leftists" think their doctor, lawyer and accountant are proletariat
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@ploretariat1949 Cuba knew that the US military machine was going to turn it's ire on them as soon as the Iran war ended. It was either make some concessions or deal with a brutal bombing campaign that they can not survive.
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It’s funny to see self described communists speak like this.
There’s a difference between being a realist, seeing the bleak situation and speaking honestly, and being a defeatist and a tool of American chauvinist propaganda
Nondescript Communist@NondescriptRed
And just like that, 20th century state socialism dies with a whimper
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@SamuraiApology Death of Stalin the was the same way - no ideological disputes; just pure self-preservation. The most 'political' work of that vein made by Ianucci is In the Loop tbh.
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thing about The Thick of It tho is it's extremely superficial and politically vacuous compared to something like Yes Minister. all it's concerned with are the little games - the actual politics and interests involved are treated as irrelevant/non-existent/uninteresting.
Marl Karx@BareLeft
It's tragic how keenly observed the little games and tricks of the political and press nexus are in The Thick of It, only for almost everyone involved in making that show to shut their brains off from 2015-2025.
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@clemferguson I agree. The debate online, as with most discourse here, is more about virtue signalling than about anything constructive.
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@Fine_Feels And, if these dudes read Marx or studied history, they’d understand that there is revolutionary potential in these lower classes that aren’t of the proletariat
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@LegoRacers2 People are quoting Lenin's take on academics in Russia - at the time an incredibly tiny sect of people mostly drawn from landed gentry/aristocracy/bourgeoise.
Even then, in What is To be Done, Lenin argued for the necessity of "intelligentsia" in a revolutionary movement.
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Every bad lefty critique of the humanities and social science begins with the assumption that academia is exactly the same as it was in 1935
Fugs 🇵🇸🇾🇪🇱🇧🔻@FugeusRedux
Academics are inherently bourgeois discourse is so funny because most of it is engaging with a straw man of academia that doesn’t really exist anymore
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@BigFritz1917 @surv1917 I'll start giving a shit once ACP becomes anything more than a Larouchite microsect founded on a golf course by failed twitch streamers
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@Fine_Feels @surv1917 Lenin limited who could get in. That was one of the points of the bokshevik-menshevik split actually.
Besides, the post doesn't even limit anything.
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This sentiment is social democratic romanticism. A Communist is a labouring philosopher or a philosophizing labourer. He is an artist because his relationship to the world and society is artistic. He is a renaissance man enriching his mind with all the treasures of mankind.
Chris Morlock@CDMorlock
Communists need far fewer professional academics, PMC's urbanites, service workers, institutional intellectuals, affluent students, economists, artists, activists, "knowledge workers", office workers, drug users, and lumpen with a chip on their shoulders. Communists need more productive proles, tradesmen, engineers, family people, rural workers, auto-didactics, the physically fit, readers, conservatives, general physical workers, realitists, commercial transportation, people who don't do drugs, union rank & file, and people looking for practical solutions based on commonality.
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@DeliaCore J Sakai wrote settlers when he became completely disillusioned with white American workers after his experiences working in the auto-industry.
So you are not wrong.
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im not against joining a trade, im against a performative dedicating of your life to "building the revolution" based on trying to project the past onto the present 1 to 1 which is what most of this stuff does. MLs/MLMs/trots who join a trade for the revolution tend to give up on
Pravda@Pravda47
Why is joining a trade so frowned upon amongst non-ML/Maoist Marxists? Why do so many want to limit themselves to academia, and social media? Why are you content with remaining spectators rather than becoming apart of the proletariat you claim to represent?
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@BlackVelvvett They're incapable of exiting the delusion because key premises of their ideology are empirically wrong and if they acknowledged it there would be nothing left.
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“She pretends to be a daring truth teller but never mentions her most obvious problem: food” - Camille Paglia on Andrea Dworkin
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Alright please a moratorium on the analytic Marxists smugly asserting their (bad) interpretation of what Marx meant by critique of political economy, thanks
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@lyrasie Why are you doing a serious critique of a dumb kid's anime about magicians
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to summarise, i think one of the main issues with avatar is it's hard to build a feelgood story when a crucial plot point is the explicit existence of a eugenic caste system that automatically advantages certain people from birth
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@besslilburne US has a special relationship with the UK in the same way that Paris Hilton had a special relationship with the chihuahua she kept in her handbag
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Is there even a UK-US special relationship now? US government hates everything about modern Britain and the Americans themselves just seem to be obsessed with calling our food trash
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@khanofkhans77 @NondescriptRed Really Venezuela was just trying to do social democracy based on their oil reserves the same way Norway was; but see what happens when a developing country tries to do what Europeans nestled in the Bossom of empire do.
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@NondescriptRed and also that the most successful social democratic systems are in the nordic countries, which didn't colonize Africa
sure you can argue that they partake in global capitalist institutions and profit that way but so would Cuba if they weren't embargoed by the US lol
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This is very easily dismissed by social democratic ideas being also tremendously popular in places like south/central america and India. It should not be our main critique of social democracy.
Landon🌹@IamLandon_9
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@Fine_Feels @richardparke15 @christina_ivey As were a lot of scots, not all were there to run or enforce the colonial rule.
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@John_Quatermass @Y2K_mindset As if social media fosters any of these qualities.
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The under-16s social media ban will inevitably foster a generation of incurious morons. Revolutionary politics and autodidacticism will become a strange quirk of a minority born between the late-90s and mid-10s. It has to be opposed at all costs.
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@tequilasunseb @MourningScholar @svetapalasha To larp you actually have to go outside, which self-proclaimed communists don't
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@MourningScholar @svetapalasha To be fair there are no communists yet, so we are all larping.
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a lot of self proclaimed 'communists' aren't communists, but rather, fans of communism
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@avispartan1 @StrengthBuild The inherent condition of any people is...what...racist, reactionary, self-aggrandising? Source?
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@StrengthBuild This is just the inherent condition of any people not subject to a state or state-like disciplinary institution. Leftists will never accomplish anything until they recognize that Hobbes was correct.
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There's no "ancient tribal wisdom passed down from oral history" in this. It's alarmingly reactionary and ethnically supremacist. So much clicked together for me. Their hostility to rural Communists, the vague similarities to zionist self aggrandizement, the machismo.
Tumultuous Noise@StrengthBuild
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