@kenmilesamerica@UltraDane It's actually becoming more common, but even if you dismiss proper "witchcraft", you can substitute in astrology, manifestation and pseudo-spirituality and it's a dead ringer.
@njp_1@mojo_grace@johannesmkx Women are much less likely to marry down than to marry across or marry up, that's just the truth. I'm not saying it never happens, I'm saying it's rarer. And in those dynamics, women tend to have less marriage satisfaction. But my larger point is there are many factors that make
Women in the West have *never* been collectively oppressed by men. This never happened. But feminism told women to hate men. Instead of slapping these messengers of hate in the face, women simply did as they were told and started hating men without question.
They say, "women weren't allowed to vote" but they don't explain that 1) men invented democracy and 2) men got the vote in exchange for military conscription and 3) men returning from war used their vote to vote for universal suffrage.
They say, "women weren't allowed to open bank accounts", but they don't explain that married men used to be held responsible for their wives' debts. This changed around the 1960s when banks started holding women responsible for their own debts.
They say, "women weren't allowed to drive cars" but don't explain that early cars were very hard to drive, even by muscular men, and were extremely dangerous. Men invented cars and then made cars easier and safer to drive for women as well.
They say, "women weren't allowed to have an education", but they don't explain that most men also didn't have an education and that elite women had private teachers.
They say, "women didn't get money for their work", but they don't explain that most men also didn't get money for their work because most men were farmers producing food for their families to eat.
Do you think women cared to look up these facts? Do you think women ever questioned feminism's hatred? No, they will rather accuse me of "mansplaining" and report my account for "hate speech".
Feminism is a cult of evil man haters who have twisted history in order to condemn men for crimes they never committed WHILE opening the borders to rapists and then jailing good men who instinctively want to defend their people for "racism".
If this is what the majority of women want, then I wish you good luck fighting the Russians because you'll have to do it yourself. You can die in a ditch yourself because I don't care about your stupid society. Why should I?
@njp_1@mojo_grace@johannesmkx of women, such as child custody, Selective Service, or even just holding women as accountable in criminal court as they do men. Equality is a pipe dream.
@njp_1@mojo_grace@johannesmkx (among other things) women hardly ever "marry down), and don't often even "marry across". And that's just one iaaue that arose from achieving an "equality". Nevermind the aspects of society that we will NEVER equalize, as they are inequalities that would come to the detrement
Hypergamy, at least in theory, is an adaptation in terms of maximizing reproductive success. But if women's dating-up is devoid of any interest in reproducing children, then you are more likely dealing with narcissism. I'll let you be the judge of which is most likely among women today.
“Narcissists are more likely to choose relationships that elevate their status over relationships that cultivate affiliation… They often demonstrate an increased preference for high-status friends and trophy partners, perhaps because they can bask in the reflected glory of these people.”
— Grapsas et al., 2020
“Narcissists seek romantic partners who offer self-enhancement value either as sources of fawning admiration, or as human trophies (e.g., by possessing impressive wealth or exceptional physical beauty).”
— Wallace, 2011
“Narcissists’ preference for romantic partners reflects a strategy for interpersonal self-esteem regulation… These partners were more likely to be seen as a source of self-esteem to the extent that they provided the narcissist with a sense of popularity and importance.”
— Campbell, 1999
“Narcissists particularly look for in a partner… physical attractiveness and agentic traits (e.g., status and success)… Indeed, narcissists report that part of the reason they are drawn to attractive and successful partners is that these people are similar to them.”
— Campbell, Brunell & Finkel, 2006
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Full citations for those quotes:
Grapsas, S., Brummelman, E., Back, M. D., & Denissen, J. J. (2020). The “why” and “how” of narcissism: A process model of narcissistic status pursuit. Perspectives on Psychological Science, 15(1), 150-172.
Wallace, H. M. (2011). Narcissistic self-enhancement. In: Campbell, W. K., & Miller, J. D. (Eds.) The Handbook of Narcissism and Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Theoretical Approaches, Empirical Findings, and Treatments, 309-318.
Campbell, W. K. (1999). Narcissism and romantic attraction. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 77(6), 1254–1270.
Campbell, W. K., Brunell, A. B., & Finkel, E. J. (2006). Narcissism, Interpersonal Self-Regulation, and Romantic Relationships: An Agency Model Approach. In: Vohs, K. D., & Finkel, E. J. (Eds.), Self and Relationships: Connecting Intrapersonal and Interpersonal Processes, 57–83.
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@Gynocentrism I'm not really a Manosphere defender, but I just don't see the Manosphere prescription leading to women being treated like "queens". I get the "women are born with value" point, but I don't see these guys treating women in a way that would lead to this narcissism. Maybe I'm wrong
@TriScaleArt They shame simps, but then simp in a "man up" guise: Woman born valuable, but men are not and so men have to earn women's approval and interest.
Same simp, different costume.
@njp_1@mojo_grace@johannesmkx (...) Fast forward to now - the Air Conditioner is invented, the industrial revolution has happened, women can now comfortably earn a living doing "work", so they fight for their right to. Feminism could ONLY exist post Industrial Revolution.
@johannesmkx@brivael I *think*, from my understanding of the dirty nasty f-word 🙄, that the whole point of it is just giving women some say in how they define themselves and what they want in this life. Like, that’s all.