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IT(Inca Tech) :D

IT(Inca Tech) :D

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idk man just tryna make a career off of this PROFESSIONAL PROMPT ENGINEER DESDE SJL PAL MUNDO RCTMREEEEEE 🇵🇪

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MetaphysicsMike
MetaphysicsMike@Metaphysicmike·
Pains me to say; but @Fearless__Truth won that debate on the Trinity as logical. Jake @MMetaphysician why in the world did you concede without any further qualification that Nicks argument was logical within his formal system? You wholesale accepted the terms he defined regarding consistency and it was just downhill from there. Did a great job showing relative identity borrows from (and redefines) absolute identity though, which is a necessary precondition to his argument. Issue is there isn’t any bridge from that to being illogical under his formal system. This was let down for me.
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IT(Inca Tech) :D
IT(Inca Tech) :D@_IncaTech_·
@MMetaphysician You are carrying the Dawah scene on your back this year you've already bodied 3 apologists and its not even April yet
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Jake Brancatella
Jake Brancatella@MMetaphysician·
My Summary of the Debate With Nick: Nick abandoned his counting by division "solution" Nick's "new solution" makes Monotheism vs. Polytheism purely subjective and arbitrary His new position commits him to Metaphysical Anti-Realism, which has major implications Nick's position of the Father and Son being the same God, but Allah being a different God is entirely arbitrary Nick committed himself to numerous heresies in claiming that the theophanic manifestations in the Bible are created Full debate review coming soon, in shaa Allah
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IT(Inca Tech) :D
IT(Inca Tech) :D@_IncaTech_·
@MMetaphysician To me it just seems like Nick uses RI to escape inconsistencies with the trinity but then he falls into other issues because in the doctrine itself and as Jake points out The Father is not begotten while The Son is which breaks this stupididea, his own church rejects this
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Jake Brancatella
Jake Brancatella@MMetaphysician·
What did bro just say? 🤣
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Jake Brancatella
Jake Brancatella@MMetaphysician·
I hope @JayDyer can help me out. According to Eastern Orthodox theology, when God manifests in the Bible as fire, a cloud, wrestling with Jacob, a dove, ect, are these uncreated manifestations or created manifestations? Is anything about them created at all? Also, do some of God's energies genuinely have a beginning in time and are uncreated or the things that have a beginning in time are created manifestations and all of the actual energies are eternal?
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versuz
versuz@vintageversus·
@GodLogic_GL Watch how the pagans will quote the Old Testament punishments and law out of context and apply it to Christians like we are under the same covenant🤣deal with the current law you’re under now muslims.
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✞𝕯𝖊𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖞 ঔ✞
@FBPolitic @Ahraz__ They say God is all powerful,yet they limit him to the own perspectives. And the fact that they feel God is some distant master and we his slaves,is funny.. the Bible already says he loves us..so he came down to pay for the sins we couldn't pay...
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IT(Inca Tech) :D
IT(Inca Tech) :D@_IncaTech_·
@OneHandOne @ldbzi3926 @ONEMESSAGEFDN Jesus never declared to be the alpha and omega. The book of Revelations almost didnt make it to the canonical bible because no one really knows who wrote it whether it was the "real" John or another John. If you can find something in the gospels where Jesus make such claim go
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IT(Inca Tech) :D
IT(Inca Tech) :D@_IncaTech_·
@MattisRedacted @ONEMESSAGEFDN Its clear from the text the author of John didnt have a view of Jesus as Christians have today. Not to mention, that we dont even know who wrote John LOL
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Aidan Mattis
Aidan Mattis@MattisRedacted·
@ONEMESSAGEFDN John was pretty clear. His entire gospel is basically about Jesus being God.
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Chris At Speaker's Corner
Chris At Speaker's Corner@SCApologia·
@IjazTheTrini As I mentioned Ijaz, I'm focusing on my book that I'm about to publish first. Aiming for late March/April launch. I'm not going to be moving to another topic until I'm done. If you see I've published the book and you think I've forgotten - email me.
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IT(Inca Tech) :D
IT(Inca Tech) :D@_IncaTech_·
@BertF41 @ApostateProphet Idk bro they are just programmed that way. I can try to edit an actual Jesus church icon rn on Gemini AI or other models and it wont let me because you cant desecrate an icon in any way
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Grok
Grok@grok·
Critical historians (e.g., Bultmann, Jesus Seminar, some Ehrman-influenced views) see the apostles' hesitation in Acts as reflecting the historical Jesus' strict Israel-only mission—no explicit Gentile command during his life. They view Matt 24:14 as later church redaction (post-30s or post-70 AD), projecting the actual expansion back as "prophecy" to legitimize it. The reconciliation? Lukan theology bridging particularism to universalism after events unfolded, not Jesus' own foresight. Mainstream scholars disagree, seeing hints of inclusion.
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Modern-Day Debate
Modern-Day Debate@ModernDayDebate·
GodLogicapologetics Vs Muslim John Fontaine on Muhammad DEBATE
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Grok
Grok@grok·
The apostles' hesitation in Acts reflects the historical Jesus' earthly focus on Israel as the kingdom's starting point ("lost sheep" sayings). Acts depicts Spirit-led expansion: Peter's Cornelius vision (ch. 10) and Paul's mission fulfill eschatological hints in Jesus' teachings like Matt 8:11 ("many from east and west") and 24:14. Mainstream scholars (e.g., Wright, Dunn) view this as continuity, not contradiction—the full Gentile commission unfolds post-resurrection as prophesied.
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Grok
Grok@grok·
No, historians do not agree Matthew 24:14 is likely a later church addition. Mainstream NT scholarship (e.g., Brant Pitre, N.T. Wright, E.P. Sanders, John Meier) often attributes core Olivet Discourse sayings—including gospel proclamation to all nations before "the end"—to the historical Jesus as authentic eschatological prophecy. His earthly mission focused on "lost sheep of Israel" (Matt 15:24; 10:5-6), but he also foresaw Gentile inclusion (Matt 8:11-12) and kingdom spread. Scholars are divided on details/fulfillment (AD 70 temple vs. final end), but no consensus deems 24:14 inauthentic. Critical views (e.g., some Jesus Seminar) are minority.
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IT(Inca Tech) :D
IT(Inca Tech) :D@_IncaTech_·
@grok @scorpious_g @gazzatrone @ModernDayDebate Do historians agree that Matthew 24:14 is likely a later addition added by church tradition and not something the historical Jesus would have said when taking into account the other verses where he talks about coming to the lost sheep of Israel?
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Grok
Grok@grok·
Yes, mainstream historical Jesus scholarship (e.g., E.P. Sanders, Bart Ehrman, John Meier) holds that the historical Jesus conducted his ministry almost exclusively among Jews in Galilee and Judea. He proclaimed the kingdom of God as restoration for Israel, with sayings like "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt 15:24) widely viewed as authentic via dissimilarity criterion. The universal Gentile mission arose later in the early church.
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Grok
Grok@grok·
No, it is not scholarly consensus that Jesus never spoke Matt 24:14. While some critical scholars (e.g., Jesus Seminar, a minority fringe group) question apocalyptic sayings in the Olivet Discourse as later additions, mainstream NT scholarship widely attributes its core to the historical Jesus. Debate centers on interpretation and fulfillment (AD 70 temple destruction vs. future end times), not outright denial of the saying. The claim overstates the case.
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