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What evidence in the case are these findings that you claim exist? For example, the judge did not allow the emails between her and her friend who testified that she had told her which noted that they would cook up a scheme to get Trump. The judge did not allow the fact that the famous dress she claimed to exist with DNA did not exist in the time period. She claimed this occurred. I can go on and on with numerous things that show that she is quite literally mentally unwell, which is why major media outlets will not do live interviews with her as she is bizarre beyond belief.

@Goon_Actual_ @Pmdiet13 @Adam4004 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol I do, I wrote it purposefully for the sake of engagement. Based on the findings of that case, it’s reasonable to infer he engaged in some form of sexual misconduct, beyond a reasonable doubt.

Okay! But I gotta ask, since you seem concerned about sexual misconduct, have you met President Trump?

It wasn’t inferred beyond a reasonable doubt. Literally the definitions are that if you think it’s 51% likely that this could’ve occurred you can vote in that direction. Given that the judge allowed none of her lies or the fact that she is a serial accuser who has literally accused seven major men of raping her, including claiming a mafia leader, raped her and didn’t allow any of the major lies such as the one about the dress to be presented to the jury. All they had was her claim. The judge then allowed her attorney to bring in two women to say that Trump had tried to force himself on them, even though no evidence was presented, and they had zero knowledge of her case. Something that would never be allowed, and which the judge did not allow in terms of attacking her character

@PassTheMic6 @Adam4004 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Okay, it’s inferred beyond a reasonable doubt.

@Terminal4ntz @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol The legislature had lifted that statute so that they could bring civil or criminal cases for 30 days She did not bring one criminally because it had zero chance in a criminal court

@Adam4004 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol The statute of limitations, no? Sexual assault is under reported in fear of the consequences.

A jury decided based on the limited information that it was more likely. I wonder if we allowed a woman to testify that you raped her and brought in a couple of women that had no knowledge whatsoever of the case to also say that you’re a horrible person if a jury would think that it was more likely than not that you were capable of doing what the person claimed. You would not be allowed to present any exculpatory evidence showing any of the lies and false information of your accuser. I bet you’d be really good with that and we could just say a local jury decided lol I’m not defending him. I don’t even really like the guy. I’m simply noting the actual facts that you left out for some strange reason. It’s almost like your hatred for him is so obsessive that you can’t imagine being wrong.

@Adam4004 A jury decided. That's good enough for me. But go ahead, defend him.

By the way, I’m quite fine. If I thought he was actually guilty of rape, I wouldn’t vote for him. The irony to me is that in terms of actual evidence there was more evidence that Biden raped Tara Reade. I didn’t believe that he did so either, but there was at least more evidence presented. But you’re right. The majority of the people voted for him over Harris and all of them, of course are evil or need help because they don’t hold your view and don’t believe a crazy mentally ill woman who calls her pets by explicit sexual names and thinks that rape is sexy in her own words Thank you for clarifying that for everyone

Again she claimed he assaulted her and addressed that didn’t even exist and claimed to have DNA, but when they tried to have that test tested by the court instead of her personal attorney suddenly it was no longer available. The dress didn’t even exist in the time period she claimed the ass assault occurred, even though she couldn’t even name the exact year that it occurred. I haven’t said he’s cool. I’ve noted the evidence that you conveniently left out because you can’t stand the guy. I wonder if the jury would’ve thought differently about her friend that testified she told him about this had they known about the emails between the two of them saying they would cook up a scheme to get Trump. I wonder if they would have thought differently had they known that she’s a serial accuser of men claiming that seven different major figures have raped her including a major mafia leader. Lol. I can literally go on and on with things that the jury was never allowed to see even though this judge whose daughter was making money off of this case allowed the lawyer for her to bring in two people to simply claim that Trump had done things to them, even though they had zero knowledge or any relevance in terms of evidence for this case But you don’t care about any of those things.

And yes. If he actually did what she claimed it could be considered rape. The problem is, she couldn’t even name the year and had numerous lies. The judge did not allow the jury to hear about. That’s why I pretty much only partisan Zelis, who are obsessed with politics actually believe her. There is a reason why she’s not making the major media rounds. After her rape is sexy comment which I happen to actually watch the fact that she is quite literally mentally ill and obsessed with sex to the point that she names her pets bizarre sexual names isn’t really something that the partisans want people to see. But again, none of that matters to you because you simply hate Trump, and this is just another way to try to attack him personally

And now let’s discuss what you left out. The jury was not allowed to hear any of the exculpatory evidence such as the fact that she is a serial accuser of powerful men making her either the most unlucky woman in the United States or mentally unwell. They weren’t allowed to see the email from her friend saying they would cook up a scheme to get Trump. They weren’t allowed to know that she lied about her dress. I can go on and on. Essentially all they were allowed to see was her claims and the judge allowed the attorney for EJC to bring in two women who claimed that Trump forced himself on them, even though they had zero evidence regarding this actual case. But I’m sure none of that matters to you because it’s Trump and you don’t like him so it’s OK

@whatsittoya288 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol I’m not a Trumper and it’s sad how you only happen to believe women when it’s convenient. Again, you don’t care about women and rape. If someone politically agrees more with you than a rape pack accusation, it’s just mildly troubling. Lol

@Adam4004 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Fuck off, Trumper.

He was found liable by a civil jury and a defamation case that was only allowed to hear her claims regarding the actual events. They were not allowed to hear the several areas she lied about nor her past history of serial accusations, including how she was raped by a mafia leader. The judgment is under appeal and will likely be greatly reduced

@Adam4004 Wait, wut. He was found liable by a jury. And ordered to pay punitive damages. That seems pretty straightforward.

@bethmeredithva @PassTheMic6 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol @grok If that person is being serious. I think it’s a good thing to remove us from this thread and DM each other.

@PassTheMic6 @hbt_ft @Adam4004 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol @grok Whoa what ? My ex husband ? Did what ? Do you know him? He’s not a good person but I’d like to hear more when was this? Where do you live ?

@Cryptokrat69 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol After quoting something from the files that no one considered credible, and before I could allow Grok to explain to this conspiracy nut, why it was not considered credible, they quickly blocked me lol

@Cryptokrat69 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol So essentially, you just read conspiracy theories online and believe everything that you’re told. OK. Lol

That’s about the level of education and response I expect from someone who doesn’t actually examine the evidence and when it’s someone she doesn’t mind politically just finds those rape accusations, troubling. Are you aware that Tara actually had more evidence than EJC No. Because it’s about politics for you not about women. Stop pretending like you care about the women.

@Adam4004 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Fuck off, Trumper.

No. He was found liable for defamation in a civil case where it was literally the word of a woman who has accused seven other men, including claiming that she was raped by a mafia boss and another major famous person. Zero evidence was presented, and zero exculpatory evidence was allowed, including her bizarre, sexual statements and serial accusations. That’s the reason why I rejected her claim. I took time to look at the evidence she presented and the fact that she lied about her dress and that literally emails between her and her friend noting that they would cook up a scheme to get Trump. We’re also available. Perhaps I’m wrong, but I’m basing it on the evidence. Apparently only you can find evidence troubling though.

@Adam4004 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Um, honey, he was ALSO found liable for sexual abuse. Go read the judgement. The fact that he was found guilty makes the rest of what you typed obviously your attempt at justifying supporting that monster. Why anyone likes that orange creep I will never understand

Yes. Again, I considered Harris to be someone whose policies would hurt the country more. I’m doing better under him than we were doing under Biden. You seem honestly rather mentally unstable. It’s sad. I hope no woman in your life is ever raped because maybe you’ll just think it’s troubling, but not believe them. Especially if their politics don’t agree with yours.

@Adam4004 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Did you vote for him in 2024? I bet you did. And his policies have fucked us. There’s no more need to go forward with this thread. You’re a fucking jerk and if any female in your family is ever raped they’ll see you for who you really are. Have a nice day and GFY

@whatsittoya288 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol I didn’t vote for Trump in the primary, but I did vote for him in the general election because I felt like his policies would be the lesser of two evils. I did not see any evidence that supported a claim of rape.

@Adam4004 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Who did you vote for?

Just a summarize for those people following along. According to you, we shouldn’t always believe all women. But saying that is a typical male response. Especially when I point out that a woman accused Biden of rape and you admitted you voted for him. In his case, it’s just troubling because of course that’s one of those cases where we shouldn’t believe all women according to you. Feel free to explain to everyone why someone literally noting that we should examine the facts and that sometimes women do indeed lie is a typical male response, but it’s not a typical male response when you essentially note the very same thing :)

@whatsittoya288 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol So we shouldn’t believe all women. But it’s a typical male response to note what you just noted that we shouldn’t always believe all women. Your logic is awesome lol. To be honest being called a jerk by a person is irrational as you is kind of a compliment

@Charles56840801 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Of course it’s politics. This is about Trump as a politician. You don’t know the person and you are willing to believe any and everything you read about the person and are obsessed. He’s done a lot better than you in terms of business lol. 😂

@Adam4004 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol It’s not politics, and it’s certainly not partisan inasmuch as I am traditional GOP. Trump is just mentally, morally, psychologically unfit to be anywhere near any levers of power in the private or public sectors. He couldn’t last a month as a CEO of any major public corporation.

And there you have it. The irony is that the caricature of the zealot MAGA fits you perfectly only without that title. You’re a partisan who is so obsessed and consumed by politics and so consumed with the idea that you couldn’t possibly be wrong that everyone must be evil or completely ignorant, if they disagree with your obsessive views lol

@Adam4004 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol All I care about is using every available piece of bona fide evidence to denounce anything and everything and anyone associated with Trump. Because he’s a dangerous sociopath who should never be president.