Zor-El

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Zor-El

Zor-El

@Adam4004

Love FRIENDLY discussion and debate.

Missouri Katılım Şubat 2009
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Zor-El
Zor-El@Adam4004·
@whatsittoya288 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol So we shouldn’t believe all women. But it’s a typical male response to note what you just noted that we shouldn’t always believe all women. Your logic is awesome lol. To be honest being called a jerk by a person is irrational as you is kind of a compliment
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Gotta Getta Gund
Gotta Getta Gund@whatsittoya288·
@Adam4004 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol More things you assume. You’ve been doing that a lot today. I didn’t say that all women are to be believed. I said that it is a very typical male response and that it’s a reason why more women don’t come forward. You prove your fucking jerkiness continually.
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
@Charles56840801 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Of course it’s politics. This is about Trump as a politician. You don’t know the person and you are willing to believe any and everything you read about the person and are obsessed. He’s done a lot better than you in terms of business lol. 😂
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Charles Brown
Charles Brown@Charles56840801·
@Adam4004 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol It’s not politics, and it’s certainly not partisan inasmuch as I am traditional GOP. Trump is just mentally, morally, psychologically unfit to be anywhere near any levers of power in the private or public sectors. He couldn’t last a month as a CEO of any major public corporation.
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Zor-El
Zor-El@Adam4004·
And there you have it. The irony is that the caricature of the zealot MAGA fits you perfectly only without that title. You’re a partisan who is so obsessed and consumed by politics and so consumed with the idea that you couldn’t possibly be wrong that everyone must be evil or completely ignorant, if they disagree with your obsessive views lol
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Charles Brown
Charles Brown@Charles56840801·
@Adam4004 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol All I care about is using every available piece of bona fide evidence to denounce anything and everything and anyone associated with Trump. Because he’s a dangerous sociopath who should never be president.
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Zor-El
Zor-El@Adam4004·
No. It’s just how you act probably just online. It’s a type of bullying and makes people like you feel more powerful. It’s highly doubtful. You act like that in real life. I didn’t assume anything. We are supposed to believe all women correct? Biden was accused by a woman of rape. You admitted that you voted for Biden. So using your own words, you admitted to voting for a rapist if we are to believe all women. Unlike you, I do not believe all women. I understand that women just like men are capable of lying. So when I voted for someone, I did not believe that they were a rapist. You on the other hand have stated that we have to believe all women. Therefore, when you admitted to voting for Biden you admitted to voting for a person that you considered to be a rapist. Unless of course, suddenly, we aren’t to believe all women? Perhaps you can clear that up for everyone :)
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Gotta Getta Gund
Gotta Getta Gund@whatsittoya288·
@Adam4004 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Sorry, calling people who are fucking jerks fucking jerks is my love language. Especially when they assumes I’ve said things I haven’t. I wanted a different candidate. I gave money and worked for that person. You, obviously, are unencumbered by allegations of rape bc of reasons
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Zor-El
Zor-El@Adam4004·
You seem to be operating under the illusion that I could care less what you give me credit for or not. I simply like facts. I don’t like Lynch mobs, and I understand that conspiracy theories and political attacks are not true. I don’t go around accusing Biden supporters of loving rape and supporting a rapist by the way
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
Troubling? So you don’t believe her? I thought we were to believe all women. So essentially, if we believe all women you vote voted for a rapist. Pointing out your hypocrisy and lack of logic isn’t being a jerk and I don’t have to call you a bunch of names. :) I just have to let you show your own hypocrisy
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Gotta Getta Gund
Gotta Getta Gund@whatsittoya288·
@Adam4004 @nonconformant1 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Yes I did vote for Biden, and the Tara Reade allegations are troubling. But given the alternative of a narcissistic sociopath, I went with the least horrible candidate. I didn’t vote for him in the primary. What’s remarkable is what a fucking jerk you are.
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Zor-El
Zor-El@Adam4004·
No, they do not. And not a single one of them actually made these accusations at the time. Again, I don’t even like Trump so it’s kind of funny that I have to defend him, but there is more evidence presented by Tara against Biden, then against Trump. I don’t believe the accusations against Biden either but it’s amazing to me. How partisans will latch on and are willing to believe anything. If you don’t think that these women benefited from making these accusations in the social circles that they ran, and then I have a bridge to sell you
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
@PGHarley56 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol And blocked by this person, who, after bringing someone up that wasn’t at all in the conversation and then refusing to name any specifics for the accusations they made think it’s my responsibility to back up their claims lol 😂
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
@PGHarley56 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol You brought him up. So either you know the specifics or you don’t. If I bring something up to another person, I don’t rely on them to do my work for me. Perhaps you’re lazy and do.
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
Weird. Not a single one of those other credible accusations ever brought any kind of case against him. And to know there isn’t a credible accusation that Trump raped her when she was 13 years old. Lol. It’s amazing what people like you who can’t bother to actually dig into these things will believe. The reality is that it was so not credible that Biden’s DOJ refused after investigating it to bring any kind of charge charges because of zero evidence supporting it. The person in question has some mental health issues although it is quite clear she’s had a tragic life. Not even major media outlets will make the accusation. They understand that the evidence simply does not support it.
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Alice@AliceKh65·
@Adam4004 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Trump has DOZENS of credible accusations against him. There is also the very credible accusation from the Epstein accuser that Trump raped her when she was 13
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CounterPunch@Cryptokrat69·
@Adam4004 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol No, I know too much to vote One showers with his & one wishes to fk his Gotti/Clinton,Epstein, Putin are his associates Name 4 worse people He's been a criminal his entire life How much more evidence do you need?
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
@bethmeredithva @grok @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Of course she did. She noted that it wasn’t rape and stated that it didn’t have the love and tenderness. It’s interesting that she chose to note this later on, but didn’t go into this detail in the nasty divorce case where her accusation would have been more favorable to her.
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Beth
Beth@bethmeredithva·
@Adam4004 @grok @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Read this again. And see if what you wrote is the same as it just wasn’t the same tenderness and loving as usual that she had an issue with … x.com/grok/status/20…
Grok@grok

In her 1990 divorce deposition, Ivana Trump stated under oath that Donald Trump "raped" her once in 1989 after he had painful scalp surgery, became enraged, ripped out chunks of her hair, and then had non-consensual marital sex where she felt violated. In 1993, before Harry Hurt III's book *Lost Tycoon* was published (which detailed the deposition), she issued this clarifying statement, inserted into every copy: "During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me. On one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a 'rape,' but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense." She did not retract or deny the deposition itself; she amended the interpretation of the word "rape." In 2015, she called the resurfaced story "without merit."

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Zor-El@Adam4004·
@Pmdiet13 @Terminal4ntz @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Oh, I know. And her accusations mirrored major TV plots lol. She is either the most unlucky woman I’ve ever seen being raped by all these famous and notorious people or as is more likely she’s nuts
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
It isn’t a knee-jerk reaction. We shouldn’t believe every woman. Just like we shouldn’t believe every man. The fact that you don’t understand that women are quite capable of lying sometimes is remarkable. I’ll ask you yet again. Did you vote for Biden? Do you believe the woman that accused him of rape? These are simple questions.
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
And again, if you bother to actually look into these so-called allegations, you find that the vast majority of them are things like he asked me out, even though he was married, or he leaned to kiss me, etc. Only two of them were of a major type of allegation, and in both cases witnesses actually destroyed the allegations Weird that you left that out
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
@Pmdiet13 @Terminal4ntz @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Except for the extreme partisans, most people understood that it was just an attempt to try to get him You’ll notice that the media does not bring her out for interviews as she’s quite literally crazy and obsessed with sex lol
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
@Charles56840801 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol Right. You’re claiming that when it would benefit her in the nasty divorce case she told the truth. But when it wouldn’t actually benefit her, and in fact, probably would’ve added to sales of her book, she chose to lie.
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Charles Brown
Charles Brown@Charles56840801·
@Adam4004 @hbt_ft @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol No I’m claiming that she told the truth under oath and called it rape. Then she later tried to smooth it over when she could get something out of Trump (money, favors, resolution of other disputes, threat avoidance) by simply telling a different story without being under oath.
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
@Pmdiet13 @Terminal4ntz @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol In this case politically it was brilliant to bring it to a favorable New York judge in and a New York jury in a civil format, knowing that it would be literally a he said she said case we’re only she was allowed to present witnesses for her character
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Zor-El@Adam4004·
It’s fascinating that she could have brought a criminal complaint against him, but chose not to do so. Given the large number of exculpatory items the judge refused to allow the defense to present in this case, while allowing the same exact type of material to be presented against him by her, even someone who hates his guts if they were actually a fair person would have some serious issues.
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Pmdiet
Pmdiet@Pmdiet13·
@Terminal4ntz @Adam4004 @SarahLongwell25 @BillKristol He wasn’t found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. He was found LIABLE in a civil trial which doesn’t require “beyond a reasonable doubt” to determine liability. Civil cases use “preponderance of the evidence”… more likely than not. The burden of proof is considerably lighter.
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