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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
Bruno Fernandes has been United’s most impactful player since his arrival. In the midst of transfer dopamine, let's reflect and appreciate what he's done. We will explore three metrics, Att. Threat, Poss. Influence and Def. Work rate as components of Team performance - Thread🧵
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@Hosang Yawn yawn🤣 Cue the lame Ad Hominem "come backs" when backed into a corner Gotta get some new material man or just stop posting flawed stuff
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Jimmy Hosang@Hosang·
@FOBSVR Your brain doesn’t work properly and it’s not for me to walk you from A to B to C. Go and concentrate on your accountancy qualifications.
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Fabrizio Romano@FabrizioRomano·
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@Hosang Thought so Merely pointing out the pattern of when the lack of logic is called out it's "you don't understand" Your inability to defend your idea does not mean the other person cannot or will not understand it The point is flawed Either accept that, defend it or just move on
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Jimmy Hosang@Hosang·
@FOBSVR I’m explaining nothing to you. Use your own brain and do your own research on Rainbet. I merely pointed out his hypocrisy
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@Hosang 1. Explain how legal consensual betting is related to ILLEGAL tickets fraud 🤣🤣 No where near the same Hypocrisy is obviously not illegal 2. He IS wrong for bringing up a personal issue unrelated to the original topic That doesn't make you right for doing the same thing 🤣
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Jimmy Hosang@Hosang·
You constantly try and accuse me of not staying on topic when I do, you just don’t understand and don’t want to understand. And it’s sublime because… 1. Can you not comprehend the hypocrisy of Adam Joseph accusing someone of grifting, when he’s a hypocritical grifter? 😂 2. Adam changes the subject (obviously an issue for you) of Ricky’s stance on Bruno to attack Ricky’s past indiscretions as a tout… Beyond parody.
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@Poetic_Fella @aziztactics This is much better But the challenge still remains is the player ability to make the pass consistently and accurately Depends on angles, foot strength etc.
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Poetic Fella@Poetic_Fella·
@FOBSVR @aziztactics And if you wanted to, you could even do it in a very safe way like so (video attached). If City's winger tracks back to help the full-back win the long ball, then it's just once again a symmetrical game of football.
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Aziz@aziztactics·
To anyone saying Kepa could’ve easily clipped the ball to the FBs, this did happen at times and the result was City fullbacks jumping. City’s fullbacks were always in “half-half” positions ready to make that jump!
Aziz@aziztactics

Here we see Rice pick up positions ahead of the City front 4, so that he can get on the ball, yet once again City were fine with that. They made sure they kept their line intact and prevented any pass between the lines. The result? Rice recycles, the GK goes with the chipped pass into the RB, and the half-half position of O’Reilly helped him jump up onto White, forcing him to get rid of the ball carelessly.

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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@Hosang You constantly struggle to stay on topic If they are related you should have no difficulty in explaining exactly how We both know it's not...so you wont
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Jimmy Hosang@Hosang·
@FOBSVR You constantly struggle to see how things are related
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@Poetic_Fella @aziztactics Yes It comes down to lacking specific profiles imo They don't have anyone capable of reliably splitting lines If they had Odegaard his ball carrying could have been a solution Let him drop then run through the press
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Poetic Fella@Poetic_Fella·
@FOBSVR @aziztactics I think Arsenal's trouble came from the fact that Rice and Zubi were basically cut out of the game due to being front marked, so having them tie down Silva and Rodri means that they can't easily help their wingers win the long balls.
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@Poetic_Fella @aziztactics 1. This could work if executed perfectly , because if not you have a 4 v 2 against your defense 3. Maybe better to only push one FB up rather than both 4. This would have to work immediately because once the front 4 aren't blocking passing lanes any more they'll rush the CBs
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Poetic Fella@Poetic_Fella·
@FOBSVR @aziztactics Ah yeah, that's true, I suppose that City has 2 free-floating DMs to utilize here. What about this idea: have Rice and Zubi man-mark 2 City's DMs and push fullbacks up to overload wings. If City wants to avoid overload, their wingers need to track back, breaking their press.
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@Poetic_Fella @aziztactics Timing and distances matter too They did try that, they did have the overload with the WB and the winger out wide The problem is a lobbed pass spends time in the air and City won't remain static While the ball is travelling City, CB, DM and winger will move to balance numbers
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
Peps 4-2-4 press won't work against all teams But he doesn't intend for it to Part of the genius is him understanding that it WOULD work against THIS opposition It wasn't without risk His backline was in 1v1s and his midfield was almost bare But the execution minimized it
Football Observer@FOBSVR

@aziztactics Peps plan was executed almost perfectly with almost no room for solutions They wanted Arsenal to go long so they increased the gap between the front and back of their defence to make the distance too long And while the ball was traveling they pounced x.com/FOBSVR/status/…

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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@RedDevil766364 @Hosang Exactly, it's obviously a quality disparity We shouldn't expect more from their biased logic That's why I resort to asking them questions that will result in the full truth coming out
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Red Devil@RedDevil766364·
@FOBSVR @Hosang Unusually high utilisation is Bruno’s ‘’flaw’’, rather than a result of him being disproportionately better than his team mates. If you ask WHY his utilisation is high, they call you a ‘’fanboy’’ 😂 Incapable of assessing his strengths (and flaws) reasonably with any nuance.
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Jimmy Hosang@Hosang·
Ricky explaining an extremely well understood, 10-15 year old, sports science principle, in plain English so even beginners can understand and the rest of the studio can’t comprehend it… It’s called “utilisation” or “usage”.
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@RedDevil766364 @Hosang Bingo 🙏🏾 1. They'll never explain HOW high utilisation is BRUNO'S fault 2. This season proved it In the 20 games under Amorim, Bruno touches in the final 1/3 were < Amad, Cunha and Mbuemo Not one created as much as he did Bruno doesnt need to do less They need to do more
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Red Devil
Red Devil@RedDevil766364·
@Hosang You’ve spent months/ years decrying the quality of this squad, but now all Bruno apparently needed to do was stop trying to create & score and give more of the ball to low quality players 😂 Mental gymnastics.
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@UtdSteve_ @exfootballfan Top clubs have multiple strong goalkeepers You saw what happened when we players Bayindr and Onana Rare but a GK can get injured when that happens what'll happen then?
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@pranav_m28 Very interesting Would be interested to see where each player received the passes final 3rd, middle 3rd etc. This data would be heavily influenced by his time playing in the pivot , mostly passes to WBs and fellow DMs
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Pranav@pranav_m28·
What do Man United players do after receiving a pass from Bruno Fernandes? -Casemiro makes the most successful progressive passes after receiving a pass from Bruno. Followed by Luke Shaw and Amad. -Amad also attempts a lot of dribbles after receiving a pass from Bruno but has a very low completion rate (2/12). -Amad and Mbeumo have taken the most shots followed Cunha. -Cunah with the most take-ons completed. *This is the first example of what I am planning with this, visuals wise. Working on a meaningful action map + hoping to add some more meaningful columns to this table if possible. Give your suggestions below.
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"What 83 you talkin bout?" "BAM'S 83!"@sthsthburner

Random q for ppl who make bespoke stats has anyone done anything related to average success of an action preceded by a pass from a specific player? E.g. how successful is the next pass, dribble, shot of United player immediately after receiving the ball from Bruno vs their avg?

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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@AFCYop_ 1. That proposed pass from Kepa isn't as easy as it looks There'll be players out of frame waiting to pounce on him while the ball is travelling 2. The entire game plan was to bait the press and go long that's not on Kepa alone That's why Arteta left Havertz and Gyokeres high
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Yop@AFCYop_·
Reasons why we lost this game : —Kepa (bait and beat the press) —We couldn’t win second balls (our midfielders job)
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Football Observer@FOBSVR·
@IndivAnalyst Agreed Ball carriers break structures Bernardo did it for City Dropping any players would cause them to be outnumbered further up the field tho nullifying going long which was their entire plan They wanted to bait City and go long but City refused x.com/Leo_nxgen/stat…
Leo🧪™@Leo_nxgen

You can't try to limit a team PSG, Bayern, City or Barcelona with this, they'd find solutions with quality. This is where I have problems with Rice (if people think he's as elite on the ball). He hasn't shown that level of control or tempo in his game. I don't think anyone saw Pep drawing up a 4-2-4 to limit Arsenal's progression but it's no secret that Saliba and Gabriel aren't elite on the ball. Arne Slot did something similar at the Emirates. He forced Arsenal to play through their center backs and man-marked Zubimendi. They didn't progress easily in that game. You need quality in this moment asides structure. Life without Ødegaard...

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The Individual Coach-Analyst@IndivAnalyst·
@FOBSVR Good point, thats when maybe a CM ( Rice/Zubimendi) can drop in front and carry the ball to bait the press & find a forward pass (solution 2)
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The Individual Coach-Analyst@IndivAnalyst·
The front 4 press isn’t new - and the solutions don’t have to be complex. 5 from Helberg’s Boro vs Stoke: – One CM drops, one behind the press – CBs close → quicker circulation – FBs narrow, offensive side → back-foot receive – Play through to go wide – CBs stepping in Solutions come as much from players as coaches -tailored to profiles, opposition and game context.
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