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@IndieAnalogue In such areas with less shallow lakes and crannogs, you’ll find more raths and ringforts and cashels

@IndieAnalogue Lovely map. I’d suggest the distribution is dictated by much fewer suitable shallow lakes in Munster, Wales and England, and not a boundary line of culture by any means, as Celtic culture prevailed then across all of the Celtic Isles, including in Munster, Wales and England

The distribution of crannogs shows that the native people of Scotland and Ireland were always closely linked. Note that the crannogs stop appearing almost exactly on the modern border with England.

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Can only assume you refer to the nineties children’s book as opposed to the Orwell essay imploring a (non-Irish) socialist revolution in Britain. If the latter, read the Proclamation of Irish Republic. Just don’t think it was ever realised, or that these Irelands aren’t Celtic

@HashTagTobes @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson It’s odd that at one point you acknowledged the benign Greek etymology of British Isles, suggesting it was instead later corrupted by the behaviour of the Tudors. You know nothing of my politics or even my thoughts on Ireland frankly. Read Lion & Unicorn and you’ll get an idea.

Irish Ogham found in an Arabian manuscript in Egypt

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Funny you quote that line as you are denying the original root of both terms. Orwell had a ‘jingo snarl’ towards Ireland and was careful to silence Peadar O Donnell’s pen in Barcelona, but would most certainly have classed you a ‘hollow, posing dummy’ like the imperial officer🐘

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson I didn’t offer any evidence of my own ideologies. I responded to you saying at term with genocidal, superior race roots didn’t have blood feud connotations by reminding you that the republic was won by those following a novel and extreme advocate of a blood sacrifice movement

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson You’ve presented nothing but saliva on windows. You should see why the genocidal etymology of the term voids it. You should see why the Greek phrase is rooted differently. You should understand folk like you made Pearse’s blood sacrifice ideology necessary to win the republic.

@HashTagTobes @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson For your own sake, I hope you see from what I’ve presented that when people use the term ‘British Isles’, they’re not invoking some ancient blood feud. Nor is there reason to think that the etymology of the term bears some indelible ‘original sin’. (3/3)

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson The term is not a geographical descriptor and never has been, as described. Because of repeating your ignorance and despite the senses of your Hugh, your legislature, your government, your monarch and Ptolemy, I think it’s fair, he was patient and you continue to lick windows

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Well, there you go, law since 1978, whether you’ve heard it or not. Ignorantia juris non excusat. The British Isles is a redundant political term and construct. The British Islands does not include Ireland. These islands. Britain and Ireland. Celtic Isles.

@HashTagTobes @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson ‘The British islands’ is not a term I think I’ve ever heard, but apparently it’s a designation to include the Channel Islands, since they’re not technically part of the British Isles.

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson It is not the same name. One means Celtic Isles including England. One was designed to imply that England is destined to rule the world. Similarly a Briton would probably not identify as a Pritani, not much in Ulster anyway. Similarly Valois is not Wales.

@HashTagTobes @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Right so given the same term predates the Tudors, you see that the name ‘British Isles’ was not a justification for conflicts with Ireland, in and of itself? Incidentally, the Tudors who formulated a ‘British Empire’ (like Dee) were themselves Celtic, being of Welsh origin.

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson The Pretani were definitely classed as Keltoi. While the term Celt may be viewed or assumed as Irish today, the Greeks used the term Keltoi as a blanket term for tribes in France and Spain and Britain. Ireland was viewed as almost even beyond that, yet undoubtedly Keltoi

@Hugh_might @HashTagTobes @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson That’s actually not true, Pretani was used by ancient Greeks to refer to the peoples of the British Isles more generally. Whether this was their ignorance of distinct cultures, or because they had yet to differentiate into Pict/Brython/Gael is up for debate.

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson "British Islands" (defined under the Interpretation Act 1978) to refer only to the UK, the Channel Islands, and the Isle of Man—excluding the Republic of Ireland. Official government and diplomatic and royal communique do not use the term. ‘These islands’, ‘Britain and Ireland’.

@Hugh_might @HashTagTobes @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson I’m not saying the OS does work in Ireland. I’m just showing his statement that the UK government avoids the term ‘British Isles’ is false. You can see here how they define it too.

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Semantically they were calling them the Celtic Isles though. Pretani were very much only considered Keltoi by the Greeks. From Galway to Galicia to Galatina. Semantically Dee and Camden etc were very much orchestrating a different meaning and context with a different term.

@Hugh_might @HashTagTobes @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson No, if the Greeks had called them the ‘Celtic Isles’, I genuinely wouldn’t care. I’m telling you that basically an approximation of what they called them anyway. My issue is with this paranoid reframing of language, like some Maoist cultural revolution; imbuing words with ‘magic’

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Curiosly, the Greek context is implying the Celtic Isles. The Dee/Twyne/Camden Tudor expansionist context of a different term, did not have the Greeks or Celts in mind and indeed implies a sense of right and destiny to colony and exceptionalism, and ownership. All redundant now

@Hugh_might @HashTagTobes @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Out of curiosity, do you believe that when people use the term ‘British Isles’, they’re covertly advocating for a political union with Ireland? Because I promise you, they’re simply not. Everyone knows the distinction.

@Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @TheNewTrueBlue @lindymasterson People can read the Ogham alphabet, yeah

@Tom_Rowsell @TheNewTrueBlue @HashTagTobes @lindymasterson Ok.The Latin alphabet has been used to write all sorts of languages. Can people read Pictish Ogham?

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson The British monarchy and government do not, for at least abkit 30 years. The late Elizabeth referred to ‘these islands’ pointedly. Govts use Britain and Ireland. You miss the point with regard to the Greeks and Romans. Brittany is named Brittany because of Celts from Britain

@HashTagTobes @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson The monarchy and government ordnance survey both of course use the term British Isles. When the Greeks and Roman named the Isles Brettanikai, Britain wasn’t even called Britain, it was Albion. And they would still refer to distinct peoples like Hiberni and Scoti too.

@Hugh_might @TheNewTrueBlue @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Why is it not accurate? Scotland and Wales are Celtic. Most of England was. It is not mostly because of Romans and Normans and Vikings who conquered England easily. Normans and Vikings assimilated in Ireland, in comparison, and Romans didn’t bother. Perfectly accurate.

@HashTagTobes @TheNewTrueBlue @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson I don't know if "Celtic" is accurate. There's a lot of debate on the topic, and I can't see Brits liking it anway. Ireland is not in the British Isles. They can have their own British Isles. Ireland is not one of them.

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Your government and monarch encourage you not to describe as such.

@Hugh_might @HashTagTobes @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson I think geography departments everywhere would be surprised to learn that. Besides, the whole archipelago was referred to as Prettanike/Britanniae for millennia before there was notion of a ‘British’ political identity. How would you choose to refer to the archipelago as whole?

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson The Celtic Islands. Obviously.

@Hugh_might @HashTagTobes @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson I’m just curious how you would refer to the whole archipelago? I suppose it’s similar to how Brexiteers would say that they didn’t want to ‘be a part of Europe’ as a political entity, but wouldn’t insist that Britain isn’t geographically a part of Europe.

@Hugh_might @TheNewTrueBlue @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Germany is not an island. It’s a geographical convention. Gran Canaria, Grand Bahama, Hrand Cayman, Gross Britain, or Gross Britain as you mention German

@TheNewTrueBlue @HashTagTobes @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson I already told you. And geography has nothing to do with it. If Europe was called "Greater Germany" there might be a point. But it isn't. Though there was this. co-curate.ncl.ac.uk/german-ocean/

@TheNewTrueBlue @Hugh_might @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson It is not. It was a political designation, which both your government and monarch no longer use. ‘Great’ Britain is a geographical designation, only. Brittany celtic too and settled by Celts from the ‘greater island’ mostly. Previous, Armorica was also deeply celtic

@Hugh_might @HashTagTobes @Tom_Rowsell @lindymasterson Ireland is part of the British Isles, it’s a geographical designation -not British is cultural/political sense. It just refers to all the islands on the same continental shelf block. But that’s aside the point, Tom’s focus is indo-european cultures, so of course he values Ogham.