NomadActual34

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NomadActual34

@OrnerRyan

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가입일 Şubat 2012
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
Same argument can be made for America too brother. Everyone is quick to point at Korea and Vietnam to say America can’t do XYZ. Ya just don’t know. I personally would hope the EU would win. I’m just not confident in it right now considering the majority of their security and defense is funded by America.
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Ronny
Ronny@ReportGlob82003·
@OrnerRyan @PatrickCmtl @Microinteracti1 yes but ww2 is diffrent i mean it was just nazi germany and 2 allies vs a lot of people whit low tech now its diffrent now you have full nato vs russia
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
@cristo_burton @Microinteracti1 Let me know what happens in the next couple months. Especially since they are going back to the US dollar and actively trading with America now.
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Olga Burton
Olga Burton@cristo_burton·
@OrnerRyan @Microinteracti1 It’s no longer considered a superpower…and no they are not progressing at all….the war is costing them almost a million dollars a day….and their economy is in flux.
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Conservative
Conservative@Conservative2TX·
So let me get this straight. - Iran keeps the regime. - Iran keeps missiles. - Iran keeps uranium. - Iran gains more leverage over the Strait. And Trump gets to puff out his chest, yell “victory,” and sprint for the exit. What exactly did the West win here? Because from where I’m sitting, this looks less like strength and more like theater. The kind where everyone claps at the end, even though the building is still on fire. - Russia is watching. - China is watching. - North Korea is watching. And the lesson they are learning is not that America is unstoppable. It is that America talks big, hits something, declares success, and then looks for the nearest door. That is what a paper dragon looks like.
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
I think you’d def put up a fight for sure… just gotta realize who you’re fighting. Russians don’t care how many they lose… proven in every war, they overwhelm with numbers and are credited as winning WWII regardless. Ukraine is fighting with American and NATO equipment. That’s why they are still in the fight. Without it, they would have been conquered already.
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Ronny
Ronny@ReportGlob82003·
@OrnerRyan @PatrickCmtl @Microinteracti1 but the problemm from russia is ist no 2 front ist a hole line of fronts they need to defend if nato attacks and the baltics are very strong people good mindsets to poles to ukraine we dont need to talk about and if we swiss i hope we join we can send good men power to
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
I definitely think they have been preparing for years, although I don’t think they were expecting the results to be this lopsided militarily. They are letting other countries through with payment, but regardless a pretty hefty chunk of money is halted altogether. They are not even close to operating at 50% of their original volume. And America could shut off the other side of the straight further hurting them. I’m unsure of your last statement there brother? Don’t know what you mean.
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Matthew Lincoln
Matthew Lincoln@Mslincoln1085·
@OrnerRyan @Conservative2TX I think it's less anarchy, and moreso years of preparation. They've likely been expecting a war with us for years. Also, It won't hurt their cash flow as much as you think it will if they allow certain nations/ships to pas through the Strait at a fee. IIRC, they're doing that.
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
@cristo_burton @Microinteracti1 Yea we have been hearing this bullshit argument for years yet they are still progressing somehow while at war and holding multiple fronts and influence all over the world. Still the 3rd largest and most profitable super power.
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Olga Burton
Olga Burton@cristo_burton·
@OrnerRyan @Microinteracti1 Russia is almost bankrupt…and it is failing to produce enough high-tech modern systems to the point where it is now having to depend more and more on its Soviet stockpiles. So not so stupid.
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
Hmmm 🤔 you think nukes would be first response or last?? The EUs best and strongest country is Poland.. it’s literally a mini America. That’d be a wild matchup. But I truly don’t see the EU holding a candle. Russia goes… next comes China. And without the US… the EU gets crushed.
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Ronny
Ronny@ReportGlob82003·
@OrnerRyan @PatrickCmtl @Microinteracti1 the only think they can do is nuke EU but do you really wanna do this and get nuked to idk about that but if we go full nato vs russia russia falls in 2 months
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
Is it though? Their set up is just anarchy.. there isn’t real leadership left, just a bunch of “soldiers” that were told to just keep creating chaos🤔 their lunch capabilities are greatly diminished. At the start their launch waves were huge 900+ a day. Now they are barely over 20 a day… the straight is closed yes, but that hurts Iran even more the longer it stays shut by crippling their economy and cash flow. American use in the straight is less than 3% annually. America doesn’t even get its oil primarily from there. Everyone else is feeling it pretty bad though. You may be right. It could go in a couple more weeks🤷🏻‍♂️
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Matthew Lincoln
Matthew Lincoln@Mslincoln1085·
@OrnerRyan @Conservative2TX The issue is the regime is still intact for the most part. Even if it'll take years to rebuild, they still have the Shahad Drones as well as terror proxies throughout the region. Not to mention the Strait of Hormouz is still close. I think this things far from over.
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
Definitely agree with you. But for Iraq and afghan… we held ground, moved freely for the most part and completed objectives. The problem that America has is it’s trying to fight an ideology and religion. You can’t bomb it out of the people… but if we talking militarily here, the objective we said was to destroy the regime.. 50 leaders dead including supreme leader. destroy their airforce/navy and military power… they are destroyed. And destroy their nuclear capability.. it’s buried under a mountain right now as of 2 days ago. The objectives are complete. Iran is not going to have the money to rebuild for decades and the amount of infrastructure they just lost is catastrophic. I get everyone is against America and throws opinions out, but this militarily was such a one sided conflict it’s not even remotely close.
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Matthew Lincoln
Matthew Lincoln@Mslincoln1085·
@OrnerRyan @Conservative2TX Destroying Iran's weapons from the air is one thing( and very impressive on the part of the US/Israel). The real test is what happens on the ground. Remember: In Iraq, we won the initial part of the war. It's what happened afterwards that became a mess.
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NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
@PsychoM40920584 @Rail_splitter1 America fund 60% of nato🤦🏻‍♂️🤡 they literally fund more than all the other nato countries combined🤡🤡 you just made yourself completely irrelevant and not credible😂😂 get off the internet you fuckin loser haha
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Psycho Maniac
Psycho Maniac@PsychoM40920584·
@Rail_splitter1 US would run away they aint fighting Russia lol they cant beat Iran why the fuck would anybody think they would try against Russia? US is here just to milk EU for money and nothing else same as Middle East we see how they protect Qatar Kuwait UAE and SA 🤣
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Railsplitter Fella 🇺🇦 🇪🇺
Never in my worst nightmares did I think I’d say this: In the event of a Russian attack on NATO, we have to start thinking the unthinkable: whose side will U.S. forces in U.S. bases in Europe take? We all know this: Trump would find joint aggression with Putin irresistible.
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TheWaveRunner
TheWaveRunner@TheWaveRunnner·
@OrnerRyan @Bbravo_724 @Conservative2TX Trump is the one shifting the goal posts. What happened to “UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER” in all caps??? Now you’re trying to sell this bullshit as “winning?” What an idiot.
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NomadActual34
NomadActual34@OrnerRyan·
@Unit_9900 @Conservative2TX Remove the morals and ethics from the force, treat it like a war just as they did hundred and thousands of years ago… and all wars the US participated in wouldn’t have lasted a month.
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TheWaveRunner
TheWaveRunner@TheWaveRunnner·
@OrnerRyan @Conservative2TX Hey genius, What’s the point of ‘blowing stuff up’ if it doesn’t change the geopolitical landscape to our benefit - in fact, it could be worse? You might want to re-analyze your definition of “victory.” # of “targets” hit is not the same thing as achieving strategic goals.
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