Tanner Plitt

@sw_holocron It is if you ignore the sequels

Is this the best ending of any movie of all time?

@GojiFan_78 @TatooineSons Agreed. That was gonna happen in the sequels based on the Lucas story treatments but Disney decided to do their own thing instead.

@TannerPlitt @TatooineSons But he was still right about his father having good in him. The ST should’ve been about him rebuilding the Jedi Order instead of killing them off again offscreen. Or have a fully functioning Jedi Order throughout the ST.

It is as Luke Skywalker sits on Ach To after nearly killing his own nephew because he had started to think like Ben Kenobi and Yoda in Return of the Jed… that is the moment Luke Skywalker concludes it is time for the Jedi to end.

@fab_ramosromero @TatooineSons No. Lucas: “A Jedi can’t kill for the sake of killing. The mission isn’t for Luke to go out and kill his father and get rid of him. The issue is, if he confronts his father again, he may, in defending himself, have to kill him, because his father will try to kill him.”

@TatooineSons Nailed it

@araz4liberty @TatooineSons Incorrect Lucas: “A Jedi can’t kill for the sake of killing. The mission isn’t for Luke to go out and kill his father and get rid of him. The issue is, if he confronts his father again, he may, in defending himself, have to kill him, because his father will try to kill him.“

@TatooineSons Never saw it that way but it makes perfect sense! No wonder he nearly struck Ben, he learned from the 'best' 😅🎬

@GojiFan_78 @TatooineSons No mistakes. Lucas: “A Jedi can’t kill for the sake of killing. The mission isn’t for Luke to go out and kill his father and get rid of him. The issue is, if he confronts his father again, he may, in defending himself, have to kill him, because his father will try to kill him.”

@TatooineSons But you’d think he would learn not to make the same mistakes they made. It felt like a regression for his character as he already went against the teachings of his masters at the end of ROTJ.

@TatooineSons Not true Lucas: “A Jedi can’t kill for the sake of killing. The mission isn’t for Luke to go out and kill his father and get rid of him. The issue is, if he confronts his father again, he may, in defending himself, have to kill him, because his father will try to kill him.”

@TatooineSons Lucas: “A Jedi can’t kill for the sake of killing. The mission isn’t for Luke to go out and kill his father and get rid of him. The issue is, if he confronts his father again, he may, in defending himself, have to kill him, because his father will try to kill him.”

You do realize these two based the future of the galaxy on their hopes Luke would murder his father, right?

@JediNightChris @Undisclosedx4z @sw_holocron @Collider Doesn’t matter anyway because the sequels aren’t part of Lucas’ story. Palpatine died in Return of the Jedi and doesn’t come back according to Lucas. We almost had Lucas’ sequels that were based on his story treatments but Disney rejected them. We were robbed of the real sequels.

@Undisclosedx4z @sw_holocron @Collider Well I don’t think the Force can always remain in balance. Who’s to say there can’t be more than one chosen one? Rey defeating Palpatine didn’t undue Anakin bringing the Force back into balance. Anakin even tells her to bring the force back into balance like he did

The 5 Jedi More Powerful Than Luke Skywalker, according to @Collider • Ahsoka Tano • Anakin Skywalker • Mace Windu • Rey • Yoda

@TatooineSons The prequels had a great story and worldbuilding from George Lucas that greatly helped them despite their issues. The sequels had an incoherent story, weak worldbuilding ,and disrespected Lucas’ six movies. It would have been better if Disney used Lucas’ story treatments instead.

It already is moving in that direction. It will be more difficult because of this wretched hive of scum and villainy. It would be simpler if Lucasfilm developed an animated series with Luke, Leia and Han set between VI and VII telling the story of the the fall of the New Republic, rise of the First Order, Luke’s Jedi Academy, where Snoke came from and how Ben fell.

@TheMothershipYT @sw_holocron Wrong in the first sentence. You are right though in the second. They were manipulated because they let their guard down. But they still had good intentions.

@TannerPlitt @sw_holocron It is a constant in Star Wars history that the Jedi fail their students as teachers through some combination of fear, arrogance, or ignorance. The order fell because they believed the Sith extinct and became complacent to the point they couldn't sense a Sith Lord in the same room

THE ACOLYTE creator Leslye Headland trusts that the show will be well received one day. “There was a real negative reaction to [the Prequels], especially from a particular generation. And 25 years later, Hayden [Christensen] is at Celebration” (Source: empireonline.com/tv/news/star-w…)

@TheMothershipYT @sw_holocron Not true. The Jedi love everyone. They did trust him when it made sense. The council had complete confidence in Anakin protecting Padme. Anakin was rightfully denied the rank of Master since he hadn’t earned it and it was a political stunt by Palpatine. No rights were infringed.

@TannerPlitt @sw_holocron Yoda was too scared of Anakin's potential to see him as a person, they treated him like a ticking time bomb. They created a self-fulfilling prophecy by refusing to trust or nurture Anakin, instead denying him titles and infringing on his rights and freedoms.

@HackerAnt @sw_holocron I did. The show literally ends with a Jedi cover-up. Headland confirmed that had season 2 happened, Yoda would have helped with the cover-up.

@TannerPlitt @sw_holocron Are you sure you actually watched the show? My take was pretty much 180 degrees opposite

@TheMothershipYT @sw_holocron Obi-Wan did second guess him but that’s the point. He wasn’t the right master for Anakin. Qui-Gon was. But the rest of the Jedi were very reasonable. They believed in him protecting Padme. Windu was right to not trust him in ep 3 given Palpatine’s influence.

@TannerPlitt @sw_holocron Media illiteracy strikes again. The Jedi Order chased Anakin into the waiting arms of the Sith by wrenching him away from his mother, telling him to not give in to emotion, and not fall in love. Anakin was failed by friends and teachers who constantly second guessed him.

@TheMothershipYT @sw_holocron Not giving in to emotion makes sense for them. It’s about making the selfless choice in order to keep the peace. Giving in to emotion is what Anakin did when he chose his fear of Padme dying over the wellbeing of the entire galaxy. Jedi feel love for everyone, not attachments.

@TheMothershipYT @sw_holocron Anakin willingly wanted to join the Jedi after being freed. Qui-Gon warned Anakin that it’s a hard life but Anakin still wanted to. The Jedi Order didn’t even want to train Anakin since he already had attachments. They only allowed it because Obi-Wan was going to for Qui-Gon.

@TheMothershipYT @sw_holocron All of these are quotes from Lucas in 2019: “They [the Jedi] are the most moral [beings] of anybody in the galaxy." “They [the Jedi] have good intentions but they have been manipulated, that was their downfall." Also this is a space fantasy universe, not the real world.

@TannerPlitt @sw_holocron Moral according to Lucas 20+ years ago. Our understanding of philosophy and psychology have evolved over the past 20 years enough to know that the Jedi philosophy only seems moral but is actually smothering, stifling, and oppressive. It breeds poor mental health.

@TheMothershipYT @sw_holocron The Jedi’s philosophy is the most moral according to Lucas. Anakin and the Jedi were manipulated by Palpatine.

@TannerPlitt @sw_holocron Anakin's personal decisions do have consequences, but to say nobody else is blameless is silly, especially considering how the story evolved through TCW which Lucas was a consultant on.

@TheMothershipYT @sw_holocron The code had nothing to do with their downfall. It was Anakin’s fault for breaking the rules with Padme. Anakin could have left the Jedi anytime. Lucas confirmed their downfall was being manipulated but they still had good intentions.

@TannerPlitt @sw_holocron "By the time of the prequel era." Read that again very carefully. They could have been corrupt before then, genius. Also doesn't change the fact the Jedi, in the end, were a flawed cult of warrior monks whose emotionally stunting code caused their own downfall.

@Kallari3 @sw_holocron What do you mean by that?

@TannerPlitt @sw_holocron Lmao