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Dave Ramsey tells caller with $1,500,000 she can withdraw $10,000 a month without running out of money
Caller: “I'm a 62-year-old divorcee. I have zero debt. I don't own a home, but my car is paid for, and I'm living with my partner, who does not charge me rent. I have approximately $1.5 million in retirement funds. What is a good amount that I could take out monthly and still have enough to live on. My biggest fear is running out of money. I live very frugally now. I live on $2,000 a month and I think I just need guidance”
Dave: “Let's just do some basic math. What is your $1.5 million invested in?”
Caller: “Traditional IRAs, Roth IRAs... mutual funds, growth stock mutual funds”
Dave: “The portfolio is averaging what the market has averaged. So let's pretend it's going up by 12% a year. If you pulled off 8%, that means it would still go up by 4% a year. Eight percent of $1.5 million is $120,000 a year. That's $10,000 a month”
“Here's the idea: if we make 12% and we pull off 8%, we never touch the $1.5 million, and it grows by 4% a year. You never even touch the principal, much less run out of money. It's perpetual. It's mathematically infinite if you don't touch it”
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