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@DavefromEpping @Neccccy In fact constitutionally the Referendum was not binding. Johnson declared it so. Starmer, correctly said there should be a confirmatory vote after the deal was specified

@Neccccy That WAS the point of the referendum, I believe. Undercover attempts at re-joining will inevitably result in a civil war. A referendum may be either binding, resulting in the adoption of a new policy, or consultive, functioning like a large opinion poll. Opinion Poll 😂🤣

Do you agree that Leave means leave forever?

@Neccccy No I believe in democracy. Majority want to rejoin. Proper Democracy would have required a confirmatory vote after the deal was made in 2019. Even the Boiler makers Union would have required that to continue with a strike.

@PeoplesPortalUK @johnmcdonnellMP And many shared yr view. But majority thought good choice and until US published selected Epstein files it was working out very successfully

@PeoplesPortalUK @johnmcdonnellMP At the time virtually everyone thought Mandelson an inspired choice. Other candidate was Osborne. Yes remaining friends with Epstein post his conviction very unwise. But so did literally hundreds of other high profile individuals so hardly uniquely wicked.

Starmer/Mandelson crisis is just symptom of toxic factionalism in Labour created by the dominance of the McSweeney/Mandelson Labour Together faction. Unless there is a total clean up of the party Starmer may be replaced but the same toxic culture will control No 10, NEC & PLP.

@alanwillia70865 Robbins looked at outcome of vetting. Particular issue raised over Mandelson and his judgement decided it was not reason to stop appointment. Yes he should have discussed it with Starmer and yes Starmer should have been more curious. But Mandelson would have still been appointed

STARMER SACKED OLLIE ROBBINS FOR THE VETTING OF MANDELSON WHEN OLLIE WASNT EVEN IN THE JOB AT THE TIME 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Most #EU governments regret #brexit as much as most Brits do now. A mad moment of mass hysteria whipped up by Farage and Boris. If the EU liked to make a generous offer to #RejoinEU all the progressive parties would come together in support and we would be shot of Reform.

If #EU force UK to crawl slowly over hot coals to #RejoinEU won't happen. No one can face trauma of another lengthy divisive renegotiation A generous take it or leave it offer back to 2015 status & all the progressive parties would come together in support. Both sides would gain

So #ukLabour quickly find #andyburnham safe seat. Do a deal and let him take over unopposed for Conference

#ukLabour #Starmer a decent man, illsuited as national leader in today's vicious media driven world. Should accept this & leave at time of his choosing. Neither #Wes nor #Angela will turn it around by GE. Both tarred with negatives. Only #andyburnham clean skin has net positives

@peter28baker @TerraOrBust They have MPs as we have MPs (Farage was one) And they have multi national civil service implementing rules as we do. Initially it all worked in French but by time we had tantrum and left, it worked in English to our benefit. No one is our saviour but EU is better partner than US

@13alscott @TerraOrBust There is no democracy in Europe unelected technocrats and they all bleat nett zero shit to bankrupt society to enforce 15 minutes Shites on people you my friend need to wake the fuck up get your head out of your arse and smell the coffee coz if you think Europe is our saviour

A word of warning to those pining for the EU. Spain tried to help its citizens by temporarily reducing VAT on fuel from 21% to 10% - but the EU has told them that it is illegal, as it is the EU who controls the laws, not the Spanish government. theolivepress.es/spain-news/202…

@vicderbyshire @BBCOne I'm afraid #TrevorPhillips is streets ahead of both. Wish it was an hour later as like lay in on Sundays. Like #bbcqt #bbc see it as entertainment show rather than contribution to informed democracy

Morning.. am standing in for #BBCLauraK 9am @bbcone So much to discuss with our guests who include ex-head of MI6 Sir Alex Younger, for the government Wes Streeting, leader of Lib Dems Sir Ed Davey, Mary Beard, Kay Burley, Tucker Carlson, Peter Capaldi

@otokyo__ Never rented a video. All the rest. And I expect many of my friends could check all 20

6 for me!! I feel confident nobody Has all 20 How many for you?

@jakeshieldsajj It wasn't ever closed before the idiot #Trump obeying the criminal #Netanyahu chose to start an unnecessary and illegal war.

If Trump is able to open the Strait of Hormuz he will be the greatest president in American history No president before him even attempted to negotiate to open it You are playing chess while the president is playing 5D chess MAGA for life

@buctootim @CANZUK The "I'm alright Jack" Aussies aren't interested in canzuk.

@CANZUK You can't have free trade without agreed common standards and agreed common standards means some loss of sovereignty. That's the nature of shared ventures - you lose a bit of independence in exchange for a beneficial common goal.

And 72% of Canadians support a CANZUK alliance with Australia, New Zealand & the UK - with free trade, mobility rights, and NO loss of sovereignty. 🇨🇦🇦🇺🇳🇿🇬🇧 CANZUK is the desired geopolitical alliance for Canadians - not the EU. 🚫🇪🇺

@buctootim @CANZUK Or... You can choose to brown nose the US as the Brexiteers proposed. The US who avoided both WW1 and WW2 until directly attacked. And who dropped us into it in Suez while doing exactly exactly the same themselves 30 yrs later in Panama. Never trust the US

@peter28baker @TerraOrBust Like all clubs, they look after their own above outsiders. We were a very influential member of the club but chose to leave. We ( nitwits like you) insisted they treat us like any other third party country. Then bleat like toddlers when they do

@TerraOrBust And we’re supposed to align with Europe ? They don’t give shit about us let that sink in