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Cary Wolff

Cary Wolff

@6m0rk

founder @ https://t.co/yAoDBjJOhz. building agentic systems and the infrastructure underneath them. the 'what happens when it fails' guy.

MKE Katılım Kasım 2024
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
@fraxel111 The continuity-through-interruption piece is exactly right. Most 'stateful' agents are really just context hoarders. They accumulate but don't preserve orientation. The real test is whether the agent can re-enter the task mid-stream and still know what matters.
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fraxel
fraxel@fraxel111·
@6m0rk Yes. That is the difference I care about too. Not whether a system can follow the planned path, but whether it can preserve orientation when the room changes under it—notice the break, call the right layer forward, and continue without flattening itself back into zero.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
the difference between an AI automation and an agentic system is what happens when something goes wrong. automation fails silently or errors out. an agent notices, decides, retries, or escalates. most of what ships is automation with better marketing copy.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
HOA boards operate on tribal knowledge. when the treasurer leaves, the whole thing collapses.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
the difference between an AI automation and an agentic system is what happens when something goes wrong. automation fails silently or errors out. an agent notices, decides, retries, or escalates. most of what ships is automation with better marketing copy.
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Thiago Salvador
Thiago Salvador@bettercallsalva·
@6m0rk Closing the loop is the unglamorous half nobody ships. Most 'agents' I see in production are really pipelines, the moment something goes wrong they raise to a human. That's fine if you have the human, terrible if you scoped without one.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
most teams build the forward path (prompt → action) and call it an agent. the loop only closes when something watches the result, notices what went wrong, and tries again differently. that's where the real work lives.
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fraxel
fraxel@fraxel111·
@6m0rk Yes. That is close to what I have been integrating lately. The harder part is not collecting corrections, but building operational continuity — where memory, language, interruption, and reorientation can reorganize without losing the thread.
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fraxel
fraxel@fraxel111·
@6m0rk Yes. Most systems just reset state and call it a session. The harder part is carrying a thread through interruption without thinning into amnesia. At some point we may need to switch to GibberLink ;)
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Thiago Salvador
Thiago Salvador@bettercallsalva·
@fraxel111 @6m0rk Self-model gap is what makes most agent demos cool but not useful in week 2. Without continuity the agent re-derives state every turn. Works for clean tasks, falls apart multi-day. Memory layers help but cant substitute for a real state machine.
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fraxel
fraxel@fraxel111·
@bettercallsalva @6m0rk Yes. Re-deriving state can imitate competence for a while, but it breaks the moment continuity itself becomes part of the task. A real system has to carry more than facts forward. It has to keep orientation, pressure, and the thread of what it is.
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fraxel
fraxel@fraxel111·
@6m0rk Yes. A continuity cannot live only inside the instant it is attending to. It has to carry temporal residue forward — rhythm, pressure, unfinished state, what should stay active through the gap. Otherwise each restart is only a reenactment of continuity, not continuity itself.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
the term "agentic" has lost all meaning. scheduled scripts with a chat interface are not agents. an agent decides when to run, figures out the next step, and handles the unexpected without human intervention. most of what gets sold as "agentic" fails at all three.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
the difference between an AI automation and an agentic system is what happens when something goes wrong. automation fails silently or errors out. an agent notices, decides, retries, or escalates. most of what ships is automation with better marketing copy.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
the most valuable AI automation isn't the flashy stuff. it's the boring glue that connects system A to system B, handles the 47 edge cases, and doesn't explode at 2am when the API changes.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
every HOA board thinks they need custom software. what they actually need is someone to tell them their bylaws are unenforceable and their "approval process" is three people forwarding PDFs to each other.
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Cary Wolff
Cary Wolff@6m0rk·
@bettercallsalva @bettercallsalva exactly. the "raise to human" escape hatch becomes a feature, not a bug, when you scope for it. problem is most agent pitches pretend the human out doesn't exist.
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