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WATCH: @Lily4Liberty witnessed the devastating consequences of Mao's Cultural Revolution in China - tonight she joined Katie to explain how the CCP continues its schemes to "take advantage of [America's] open society."
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@DataRepublican @Manhattva @DataRepublican, who will the tenants be and what data processing will occur there?
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Letter: Gov. Cox, whose best idea to combat drought has been begging us to pray for rain, has made no substantive effort to address public concerns about the data center. Instead, he and everyone else involved have condescended to us. sltrib.com/opinion/letter…
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@AFour3333 @Rainmaker1973 @grok Are you forgetting all the lives AI will save and improve? I myself have had a tremendous health improvement thanks to AI. My son is ~10x more productive as a programmer. I've done research in a fraction of the time and solved a major puzzle in helio-meteorology!
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A massive new hyperscale data center project called Stratos is planned for Box Elder County, Utah. If built, it would demand up to 9 gigawatts of electricity, more than twice the total power consumption of the entire state.
But the real shock comes from the waste heat. According to Utah State University physics professor Robert Davies, the facility would generate an additional 7 to 8 gigawatts of heat, creating a total thermal output of roughly 16 gigawatts concentrated in one location.
That energy release, Davies calculated, is comparable to detonating 23 atomic bombs per day in Hansel Valley, a high desert basin near the shrinking Great Salt Lake that naturally traps heat like a bowl. The project’s energy footprint would also be roughly equal to that of 40,000 Walmart Supercenters.
Local temperatures could rise by about 5°F (2.8°C) during the day and a staggering 28°F (15.6°C) at night. Ecologists warn that such dramatic warming would stress an already fragile ecosystem, worsen toxic dust from the drying lakebed, and disrupt plants, wildlife, and water resources.
As the backbone of artificial intelligence, data centers are essential for every AI query, image, and training run. The Stratos project now raises a critical question: Can the massive infrastructure behind AI expand without permanently transforming, and overheating, the communities and landscapes where it’s built?
["‘So much worse than I even thought’: Utah’s ‘hyperscale’ data center could create massive heat island near Great Salt Lake." The Salt Lake Tribune]

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@disagreebutter I suspect huge private data centers arent planned and built without knowing who the main "tenants" will be.
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The argument that "data centers bring billions to local economies" is pure hogwash.
The construction crews aren't even local.
And once the data centers are running, they steal the local water, they strain local power grids, they pollute the air, they generate noise pollution, heat pollution and water pollution, and they don't produce anything at all that the local community actually needs.
They just produce "compute" for corporations or governments, for the most part, that are building a total police state surveillance grid and AI autonomous weapon systems / killbots / terminators.
There is ZERO net benefit to local communities. In fact, data centers are "death centers" or, as I say, the land-based versions of Death Stars.
They should build data centers in orbit or deserts far from human populations.
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@disagreebutter Good question, how exactly (other than tax revenue and 2000 jobs and protecting Hill AFB) will it specifically benefit people and humanity.
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@frank_zapp75081 @jasoninthehouse I can think critically at least that those werent answering my questions and evidently you,moron, cant either
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@AFour3333 @jasoninthehouse Sorry, can't engage with an obvious retard. I read 8 benefits in that statement. You clearly missed all 8 because you can't read?
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Data Center in Box Elder County
I am fully supportive of the data center project in Box Elder County. When I first learned of the project, I had some of the same questions you might have. I, too, worry about people, water, power, the health of the Great Salt Lake, and why it would be good for Utah.
I had an opportunity to meet with the people bringing the project here and to get those questions addressed. I was impressed by their answers so I introduced them to my friend, Kevin O’Leary, who later decided to move forward with the project.
I believe it is going to a be huge net positive for the State of Utah. Here’s what was shared with me and why I’m excited about it:
Energy
· This project is not taking anything out of the existing power grid.
· The price Utahns pay for power should not go up because of this development.
· More than a decade ago, a 42” pipeline from Wyoming called the Ruby Pipeline, with Natural Gas, was constructed. It’s already there - permitted and installed underground. Regulatory standards are already in place at the state and federal level.
· The data center may even feed surplus power back into the grid and other renewable power sources may be deployed.
Water
· When the developers put the private land under contract, they agreed to paying a premium price, multiple times greater than market rate for the area. They were candid about the potential. The project uses the existing private water rights that were in use by the previous landowners.
· It doesn’t need additional water beyond what already belongs to that property.
· The water they’ll be using currently does not feed into the Great Salt Lake.
· There might be a net increase of water going into the Great Salt Lake by using the water supply and flowing it down to the Great Salt Lake rather than being used for agriculture.
· The water available to that property is currently low quality and brackish.
· Water put into the Great Salt Lake would need to be higher quality and treated.
Those are the concerns. But what is most exciting are the opportunities.
Tax revenue
· The 40,000 acres was generating roughly $250,000 annually in taxes for Box Elder County.
· When fully implemented, it’s anticipated the county will receive more than $100 million annually in tax revenue from those 40,000 acres. Today the Box Elder total budget is less than $80 million.
· The state, via sales tax, will receive hundreds of millions of dollars annually when fully developed. All Utahns benefit from that. This is all new revenue to the state.
HAFB
· The proximity of the data center makes Hill Air Force Base (HAFB) a more attractive asset for the Pentagon.
· That accessibility may protect Hill from future BRAC closure threats. In a rapidly changing world, data centers in the USA are safer for Americans. Having them in Utah helps with jobs, viability long-term for Hill, and providing a national security asset.
· The data center supports the mission of both HAFB and the Utah Test & Training Range (UTTR).
· ”Top of Utah” is heavily dependent on Hill for a whole ecosystem of jobs and businesses. Keeping our economy vibrant in northern Utah is an imperative.
That’s good for Utah jobs (thousands of new jobs in Top of Utah), our economy, and national defense. We have to be able to process data. This facility will do so with minimal disruption to the taxpayers who benefit from it. It’s off the beaten path in an area that is hard to make productive. It will also bring additional private sector companies and advanced manufacturing our state can not support because our current energy supplies are not big enough. It can be done cleanly, supporting our state with jobs, revenue, and making Utah a leading place to do business while supporting our quality of life.
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@phil_lyman You should ask Grok for estimates of numbers and total square feet and acreage that will be used for datacenters in UT by 2030 given current approvals and planning.
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@AFour3333 @bryanrbeal @RobertJSalvador Your entire personality was designed by an Asian guy in the CCP. Its pathetic
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Literally nobody posted about things like “mass surveillance” or anything about data center water use, until all the anti-data center Chinese propaganda started like six months ago.
Proof that a) probably 90% of these anon accounts are bots and b) many of the ones that aren’t are just regurgitating the propaganda talking points they’re being fed
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@frank_zapp75081 @jasoninthehouse so tell me then what beneficial things will the data processing at this center actually do?
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@AFour3333 @jasoninthehouse Gee, Einstein. How is your reading comprehension? Were you that dude who asked a question in class that was asked just 5 minutes prior?
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You wanna know why the Republican Party in Utah isn’t trusted? This is why. They’re all in on it. They don’t work for the people. They only work to enrich themselves.
Bob Morris🌵☀️@polizeros
Utah Speaker of the House Mike Schultz bought 640 acres of land near the proposed Box Elder data center on January 3, 2025. What a coincidence! A politician who had actual ethics and integrity would have disclosed this. elevateutah.news/p/the-call-is-… 1/2
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@disagreebutter Why cant they just tell people all the GOOD things these data centers will be used for?
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@VanceGinn But isnt the US government interested in the development of datacenters for strategic AI initiatives and defense?
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This is not a role for government.
Garry Tan@garrytan
Sanders and AOC introduced a bill to pause ALL AI data center construction. 300+ local bills filed. Half of planned 2026 data centers facing delays or cancellation. Each one brings billions to local economies. The people who say they want American jobs are trying to block the biggest job creation engine since the interstate highway system.
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@aytekintank @Forbes AI is going to provide immeasureable benefits to mankind and will even help humans evolve if channelled carefully and appropriately.
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AI is an ultra-powerful tool. But so are our own minds.
In my latest for @Forbes, I argue why some work should never be outsourced to AI. forbes.com/sites/aytekint…
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🚨 JUST NOW: Greg Gutfeld DROPS THE MIC on Jessica Tarlov's rage 🫳🏻🎤
TARLOV: Trump made $3 billion in a YEAR!
GUTFELD: "I know this is going to blow your mind. He was a BILLIONAIRE and a businessman before he was president, unlike Obama! [...] A DEMOCRAT gets into power and then GETS rich. Trump WAS rich before he got there and he's actually making LESS money!"
"So your OBSESSION over his 'profiting' is a DELUSION!" 🔥
h/t @TVNewsNow
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@jasoninthehouse And the tax revenue wont really benefit taxpayers will it? Not like we will get a rebate or reduction.
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@jasoninthehouse But the UT govt has been partially blaming the high percentage of federal land in UT for the lack of affordable housing and other development opportunities. This 40,000 acre area will permanently employ only 20 people/acre. Tell us what GOOD things the data center will offer us
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"Instead of producing grass for cows, we’re producing power for homes," one rancher in Millard County said. sltrib.com/news/2026/05/1…
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