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@TrueBurna I'm hoping the knock off removal was just in an early build and that he still has it in the release version

Lost Knock Off right when megas came back, got buffed with switch mechanics LOL man

@GameSpot Such a terrible change. They’re also reducing Protect to 8 PP and supposedly removing knock off from incin like.. I’m excited for champions but their balance team is doing a terrible job so far.

Pokémon Champions game director confirmed that IVs have been removed from the game ❌

@PokeMaineEvent I’m hoping and praying he doesn’t lose knock off in the final version 🙏🏼

No wonder incin lost knock off because intimidate just got a huge buff with the switch mechanics changing

@CTCG_DZiden @Challengertcg If they ban anything in Draven I’m selling my kai’sas. There doesn’t need to be a banlist lol

I want very badly to test for my next event, to get the ahri guide out for all of you, but i cant without this damn ban list. Dave pls 🙏

@DarkCodeVGC @MichaelderBeste Wolfe released a video today where he got to test a demo build of champions and his incin couldn’t learn knock off and gengar couldn’t learn encore

@Adam0193 @MichaelderBeste Where did you see they removed Knock off?

Did they really remove IVs in Champions? 🥲

@victryena @wellspringmask I mean it’s made by ILCA instead of Gamefreak and if we’ve learned anything from BDSP it’s that ILCA should not touch Pokemon games lol They also thought it was a good idea to remove IV’s, remove knock off on incin and reduce protect to 8 so…idk what they’re thinking.

no murkrow, p2, clefairy, magmar/electabuzz, etc is eviolite too hard of a concept for new players 💀 im assuming this is their way of cutting corners to avoid adding the whole dex. hopefully they add exceptions. also no replays in big 2026 lol bajillion dollar franchise btw

@bertcamemcus @MichaelderBeste In terms of the protect change, having the extra PP against things like dondozo really helps. There’s also matches in S/V where having the extra PP gives you more wiggle room. 8 is not enough. Incin losing knock off is bad in cases like needing to get rid of a clear amulet or AV.

@Adam0193 @MichaelderBeste IVs i understand the concern, but whats wrong with the rest of the changes?

@TisAllFine @iWillTheGamer In champions each EV adds 2 stat points per EV instead of 1 as far as I know.

@Adam0193 @iWillTheGamer EVs allowed up to 64 stat points, so 32 is a big chang

POKÉMON VGC WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. 🏆 Day 2 of Pokémon Champions deep dive dropped and the competitive barrier is GONE: ✅ IVs REMOVED: All Pokémon are 31 IVs by default. ✅ EVs REPLACED: New "Stat Point" system (32 max per stat). ✅ PP REWORKED: Moves like Protect & Sucker Punch adjusted for balance. ✅ MEGA ABILITES: Mega Dragonite (Multiscale) & Mega Froslass (Snow Warning) confirmed. ✅ SHINY POKEMON: Pokémon recuited from ranch CAN be shiny This is the most accessible Pokémon has ever been. April 8th is a new era. What are your thoughts?

@luckiMaxwynn @aricbxxiv And if both are true then those are horrible changes lol

@Adam0193 @aricbxxiv Ivs are gone and incin nerfed😇

Based on solely the eye test, Champions does look "good", but some points of concern here still: - PP amount adjustments - VP cost/earn ratio still unclear - Removal of IVs - Potential changes to stat drop calculations? - INPUT LAG WHEN SELECTING MOVES??😭

@sinrin_gaming @Carrotman0 They absolutely should keep IV’s in champions. It allows for creative teambuilding and people are 100% going to lose sets they should’ve won due to speed ties.

@sinrin_gaming @Carrotman0 “That can still be done through EVs” yes and no. If I’m playing a TR team, my amoonguss is going to be 0 speed EV’s (no investment) with a negative speed nature. If my opponent also has their amoonguss the same way teched for the TR matchup, we’re going to speed tie.

@luckiMaxwynn @aricbxxiv Could be. Think I heard they were flown out a month ago so hopefully IV’s were still in the game and protect stays at 16 like it’s supposed to be. Also incin better keep knock off 😂

@aricbxxiv Maybe they were playing on an older build as he said

@CentroLeaks If they really nerfed protect pp then that’s such a horrible change.

PP’s for most moves have changed in Pokémon Champions, here’s what’s new: - 5 PP Moves now have 8 PP - Execption: Protect now has 8 PP - 10 PP ➡️ 12 PP - 15 PP ➡️ 16 PP - Anything above ➡️ 20 PP There’s no way to increase a move’s PP.

@Ziik_VGC @ItachiVgc Agreed. IV removal is a horrible change and people are going to lose sets they should’ve otherwise won due to speed ties now. They should’ve kept IV’s in.

@ItachiVgc No IVs is incredibly minor, yes, but it also takes some of the niche interaction out I think the most prominent one is probably 27 IV Amoonguss to underspeed CIR in Trick Room and Spore it

I’m so happy ivs are gone and Evs are simplified. When I started as new player in sv (mind you I have an economics degree basically a math degree) it took me over a year until it clicked. You shouldn’t have to pay anyone (coaches) to teach the basic principles of the game.

@iWillTheGamer Don’t get me wrong I’m excited but they’re nerfing a lot of stuff that didn’t need to be nerfed. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. I’m definitely looking forward to mega evolving again and frosslass’ ability is dope.

@iWillTheGamer EV’s are functionally the same. IV’s potentially being removed really sucks. TR teams now speed tie a lot more and you can’t underspeed with 29-30IV mons now :/ Protect going from 16 to 8 is an awful change and pointless imo And they also removed knock off from incin like ????

@King0fKpop @makio_jroses I’d assume there will be more. This isn’t enough to have a full format, and S/V’s Paldea dex had 400 to start, with 380 being legal in Reg A, for comparison.

@makio_jroses More pokemons to be added or only these?

We've updated the list of all Pokémon confirmed for the upcoming Pokémon Champions

@ItachiVgc This is just objectively not true. Genning isn't dead. What's preventing someone from genning a competitive battle ready Incineroar in S/V or Kangaskhan in BDSP and then depositing them in HOME and then transferring them from HOME to champions?

With Pokemon Champions comes the death of genning In competitive. You will no longer be able to have someone make your team and trade the mons over to you with all the correct stats or gen a competitive mon without putting in some type of grind or $ towards it.

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