Friendly White Progressive

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Friendly White Progressive

Friendly White Progressive

@AnWhiLi

Friendly and white and progressive.

A very red state Katılım Eylül 2021
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
I don't want to pay more taxes any more than anybody else, but if that's what it takes to allow all workers to thrive with dignity, I'll do it in a heart beat. I also care more about supporting those in need than punishing the lazy.
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𝗱𝗮𝗻𝗻𝘆🫧💚@beyoncegarden·
"mr. vice president i'm speaking, I'M speaking. k🙂‍↕️." SHE'S SO MOTHER😭😭😭
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@community1978 @jaf7 @Kittenfish817 @tracymsquare Trump’s VP pick does
Ed Krassenstein@EdKrassen

This is absurd! Trump VP Pick JD Vance calls rape an "inconvenience" When asked about not allowing women to have an abortion when they are the victims of rape or incest, his response is disgusting. It's as if he's a character from the Handmaids Tale. “My view on this has been very clear. It’s not whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term. It’s whether a child should be allowed to live even though those circumstances of the child’s birth is inconvenient or a problem to the society.”

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Kittenfish💖@Kittenfish817·
My uncle told my mom that in New York it’s legal to kill a baby up to 60 seconds after it’s been born. When she said that was horse shit he told her to get informed.
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Ron Filipkowski
Ron Filipkowski@RonFilipkowski·
Like George Washington.
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Mike@MikeRunsMiles·
@RepMTG I can name at least one...
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Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸@FmrRepMTG·
I’ve never seen a more incompetent woman in my life. Cheatle should have resigned. Instead she’s covering it all up, refusing to answer questions and hand over information. She may be more than incompetent. She may be complicit.
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul You don't believe in morality beyond just the power to act? I don't agree with that, but I have long suspected it to be an element of rightwing thought in the US. This conversation has apparently corroborated that perception. Goodbye. I legitimately hope good things for you.
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul Big fish eats small fish. The US is currently the big fish. Someone WILL invade the minute we can’t (or won’t) fight back. You can immigrate to whatever country wasn’t built with bloodshed. Not sure where that is though. Respectfully, I’m done with this convo✌️
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul You think (supposedly) overwhelming a city's resources is worse than murdering the entire city? Regardless, you are saying you are okay with the "illegal" immigrants staying if, instead of trying to join the country, they took huge chunks of US land to start their own country?
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul Are they creating a new nation? Or are they utilizing the resources (schools, roads, food, etc) that our nation’s citizens contribute to and pay for? Are they building their own cities, or are they overwhelming cities without the infrastructure for those people?
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul Every nation was built on questionable if not terrible morals. You seem to be advocating for the undoing of the US. I think that’s morally wrong. Was it wrong what we did in the past? Under today’s lens, yes. Nothing I can do about it. I like my home. Don’t mess with it.
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Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul Are you not hearing what I'm saying? Again, in both cases, the people are already here. Again, the "settlers" of this country were moving into territories with preexisting nations. Why do you think it is morally right to undo one and morally wrong to undo the other?
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul Because I think we have a moral right to protect what we have currently. You seem to equate settlers with illegal immigration. If that is what you’re implying, then why would I want someone settling in my home?
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul Again, this post is not about border security. It's about deportation. In other words, why do you believe it is morally right to correct some instances of "illegal" immigration and morally wrong to correct other instances?
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul This is what I’m taking from your reasoning: if our origin is based on illegal immigration, then we should allow illegal immigration today. But if we can acknowledge that our past “illegal immigration” was morally wrong, why would we allow it to continue today?
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul *You* want to focus on the present, but many of the descendents of the US's victims certainly don't feel that way. I'm sure "illegal" immigrants would love to say ok now me coming across is the past but I will focus on the present.
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul But I already asked that: "illegal" immigrants who are already here also came to this country in the past. This post isn't about border security. It's about deportation. How long before an act no longer matters?
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul Their intent may be not be immoral, but that doesn’t mean it should be rewarded by the country they’re entering. If borders mean nothing, then nations mean nothing. I wouldn’t want a stranger move into my home. Fill out the application first and pay the deposit.
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul Ok, but surely the morality of an act goes beyond just power to literally do it, right? If it doesn't, you would also have to say that "illegal" immigrants aren't immoral if they can get away away with it.
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul They did. And unfortunately they lost. Now, whether they lost it fairly is a different story that really shines a light on the ugly morals of the past.
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul Perhaps. But there were a number of indigenous tribes that conquered each other. It’s a sad truth of human nature. But by your logic, you’re sort of saying that an illegal immigrant is stealing land. The citizens then have a right to protect that.
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul The people who they were stealing land from probably considered it against their rules, don't you think? If the US can ignore their rules, why can't a Mexican, for example, ignore the US's rules?
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul In terms of founding the US, I think it’s easy to point out moral wrongs, but we can’t forget the circumstances of the time. They weren’t illegal in the past as there was no nation they were immigrating to or assimilating with. It was a time of no rules, for better or worse.
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Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul The original post here was about what we have descended from. That's explicitly referring to the past. The "illegal" immigrants that are already here also came over in the past. In your mind, how long before the immortality of an evil act no longer counts?
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul The fact that you’re bringing genocide into this just proves your points are disingenuous. The past is the past. We’re in the present with present day issues.
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul There's a lot of myths/falsehoods there, but putting aside a discussion of the facts on the ground, I'll stick with moral questions. You believe it is morally superior to commit genocide and destroy/displace nations than it is for "illegal" immigrants to join an existing one?
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ConstantReboot
ConstantReboot@ConstantReboot3·
@AnWhiLi @_nomadic_soul I do when it is adversely affecting the citizens of our country. I’m all for immigration 100%, but that doesn’t mean it should be unmitigated. They’re “illegal” because they entered illegally and are using resources that we’re paying for.
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Friendly White Progressive
Friendly White Progressive@AnWhiLi·
@ConstantReboot3 @_nomadic_soul Of course, we are literally reaping the benefits of colonization. Is there some other way you imagine loomimy at it? What do you mean by put up or shut up? My point is that any claim by us of moral superiority over "illegal" immigrants is absurd. Do you disagree?
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