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Analyitical Taymi
@AnalyticalTaymi
Analytical Taymiyyan| Φ Classical Logician| Ω
Katılım Temmuz 2024
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@HarounKanj when you realize lexical primacy is a false presupposition in the use of language regarding theory of meaning, the usul of ta’wil that the asharis use falls apart.
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@Pe8B8b Def Hindu larp account, Bhrman, and Vishnu are false Gods.
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@Pe8B8b Only the brown ones will accept you, your still seen as a brown filthy person to whites. You are not white.
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@hiitsmemooneh You know ur not white right. All this twerking for western Neo-colonial powers won’t get you validation.
You’re still seen as a filthy dirty brown person to them. You’re just a pawn to be used, after which they will drop you. If they took out Kirk who are you?
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@IraqiPatriot68 Ik what it means. But that’s assuming lexical primacy. And I ask why to get your brain running. Ur assuming this understanding. Literal/metaphor dichotomy only exists when u assume lexical primacy.
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@AnalyticalTaymi You are pretending to not know what the difference between Literalism and Metaphors is, and every human being by nature of being biased presupposes their position including yourself, and know I'm not using lexical primacy I'm just explaining to you the differences of creed.
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@IraqiPatriot68 So you presuppose your position to prove your position?
Classic Mut’azila fiasco, didn’t even realize you are invoking lexical primacy, and I doubt you know what that means.
runs away when pressed philosophically. You guys being bad at philosophy is the biggest irony 😂
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@AnalyticalTaymi Your acting naive on purpose to claim that your just reading what the Quran says but in reality you know exactly what I'm saying, this conversation is now over.
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@IraqiPatriot68 Idk what you mean by literal or metaphorical I don’t believe in this distinction. What’s the argument for this theory of meaning?
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@AnalyticalTaymi If you use a literal interpretation of the Quran, then Allah SWT is literally above the Throne; However if you use a metaphoric interpretation of the Quran, you would say that this is a Symbolism of Allah's Power and Control over everything not Allah SWT sitting like humans.
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@IraqiPatriot68 “Indeed your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days,1 then established Himself on the Throne.” Quran 7:54
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@AnalyticalTaymi You are a follower of Ibn Taymiyyah. I wanna ask you a question, where is Allah SWT right now in this very moment?
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@AnalyticalTaymi Because they inscribe a literal interpretation of Allah SWT's attributes, for example, they say that Allah has two eyes and two hands
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@NinjahangWu @abdul_now @HarounKanj The actual document goes over so much more to the point every chapter can be its own volume.
So as of right now there is no timeline. Maybe in a few months.
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Interesting questions from @HarounKanj 🙂
If by “spatially above” you mean that Allah is above His Throne and distinct from creation, then yes, that is correct.
Al-Bukhari narrated in Khalq Af‘al al-‘Ibad that al-Hasan b. Musa al-Ashyab said: When a Jahmi goes to extremes, he says: “There is nothing there,” and he pointed to the sky.
And we obviously do not take the Jahmi route here. Do you?
If you mean something beyond that, then say it plainly.
I don’t know what you mean by “physical being”. I assume all you mean is a being that can be seen?
As for “spatial limit,” if by it you mean that Allah is above creation, distinct from it, and is not intermixed with it, then yes. Do you not believe that the Creator and creation are distinct, Haroun?
I also don’t know what you mean by “distinct quantitative attributes”. Those are your phrases, not ours. We do not say about Allah what He did not say about Himself.
And if by “can be pointed to” you mean that He will be seen, and that on the day of judgement He will uncover His saq, then yes. In Sahih al-Bukhari (4919), the prophet ﷺ said: “Our Lord Allah will lay bare His Shin, and then all the Believers, men and women, will prostrate themselves before Him, but there will remain those who used to prostrate in the world for showing off and for gaining good reputation. Such people will try to prostrate, but their backs will be as stiff as if they were one bone.”
So is your objection here against us, or against the Prophet ﷺ?
Haroun Kanj | Halwa Supremacist 🍮@HarounKanj
@abdul_now So, god is spatially located above us, he has a spatial limit which ensures his physical being doesn't mix with that of the creation, he has distinct quantitive attributes that can be pointed to, from among them is his shin which moves & will be uncovered. Did I miss anything?
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@HarounKanj @abdul_now Why are you assuming a substantivalist view on space? This is some out dated stuff that nobody holds to.
Last person big person was Issac newton, not even Aristotle holds to this view and he’s the source of the low tier Kalam theologians inspiration.
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@abdul_now So, god is spatially located above us, he has a spatial limit which ensures his physical being doesn't mix with that of the creation, he has distinct quantitive attributes that can be pointed to, from among them is his shin which moves & will be uncovered.
Did I miss anything?
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Latest update 🚨
Jake the Hārib Mujassim finally defines the shin he scribes to god as "that which moves and is uncovered."
When he realises he's made a fool of himself, he turns to the "what's your 'aqeeeyda" card.
@abdul_now I thought you guys said god doesn't move? Lol
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@EYakoby He said he worked for homeland security so he couldnt use real name for privacy so he gave himself an alias
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@Mohsinqs @muslimorthodoxy Angel of Satan, an angel who tortured Muhammad, again and again, terrified him and hanged him until he learned a satanic book 😭😭
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@ManeSanMart @muslimorthodoxy A demon to deceive pagans…. Nice logic.
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@muslimorthodoxy Your religion was dictated by a demon in a cave imagine believing that an angel of God tortures someone to learn a book, satanic shit
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@InspiringPhilos You know the penalty of blasphemy is death in the Old Testament. Don’t start crying about doxing when you are complicit and co-conspirator of blasphemy. Guilty by association. You fell off when you started hanging out with wood and them.
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Pray for us, and pray for them. It’s unfortunate that we have to deal with this, but we know that truth will prevail. Thankfully, this does not reflect the majority of Muslim apologists that we’ve encountered, but the sad truth is, this kind of behavior and ideology is encouraged in the Quran.
Your support is helping us stay safe and fight back with logic and reasoned arguments. Thank you
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