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@geordinhl Remember this when the DA reads letters to the US, asking for help during elections

This is dodgy.

@mhako1929595 @daddyhope Cyril did deliver such a message. Given the current climate in south africa, Cyril would've told his counterpart that a coup and the 2030 idea would be the straw that break the camel's back.

@daddyhope Are u privy to the finer details of the 4 hr meeting, frm a distance one cant rule out that Cyrill may have delivered a serious message

Hopes of a military coup against President Emmerson Mnangagwa, led by his vice president, General Constantino Chiwenga and his associates, have reportedly been quashed after sources say that South African President Cyril Ramaphosa assured his Zimbabwean counterpart that South Africa will not countenance any unconstitutional removal of a president in Zimbabwe. Today, President Emmerson Mnangagwa met with Ramaphosa in Harare, where he was received by Mnangagwa alongside businessmen Wicknell Chivayo and Kudakwashe Tagwirei, before the two leaders and the two businessmen flew on a one hour helicopter trip together to Mnangagwa’s farm, Precabe, in Kwekwe. They toured the farm, where the South African president was shown Mnangagwa’s Ankoli cattle and fish breeding pools. When they reached the ostriches, Ramaphosa is said to have remarked, in a pointed and politically loaded statement, that “nothing and nobody will remove my elder brother from power unconstitutionally.” The remark was made in the presence of members of the delegation accompanying the two leaders. “The owner of these ostriches will be president until 2030 if Parliament says so,” Ramaphosa is further reported to have said, reinforcing his assurance to Mnangagwa and those present. The two leaders then went into a four-hour closed-door meeting, where they were joined by Tagwirei and Chivayo. The meeting was described as highly personal and private, with even the president’s spokesperson, George Charamba, excluded from the delegation for today’s visit. Sources familiar with the discussions say Ramaphosa made it clear that South Africa would neither support nor recognise a military coup against Mnangagwa. Those within Mnangagwa’s inner circle were reportedly buoyant after the engagement, interpreting Ramaphosa’s position as a significant reinforcement of regional backing. They believe that, with South Africa’s stance now aligned with that of countries such as Tanzania, Mozambique, Zambia, and, more recently, Botswana, where Chivayo travelled in recent days, Mnangagwa has effectively strengthened his position and insulated his presidency within the region against any potential coup attempt. What was significant today is that South African President Cyril Ramaphosa’s trip to Zimbabwe, which I broke last night, was not an official bilateral state engagement conducted at the level of heads of state. It was a private trip, and sources in Pretoria say that many people in the president’s office, and indeed within DIRCO, the foreign affairs department of South Africa, were not aware of it. President Cyril Ramaphosa is now back in South Africa after the short visit to Zimbabwe.

@sibumabena Sounds very much like "only those who pay tax should vote" argument.

I wish we could get extra votes according to property ownership for Local Gov elections… Like…as a property owner…if you have a house in PTA, you can vote there and if you have a house in JHB you can vote there because service delivery affects property owners as much as it affects residents of a city… but because I reside in one area, I can’t influence what happens where I don’t reside but I am liable for the rates and taxes of a property in the city I didn’t vote in. Am I making sense? 🫣😩😔🤕

@MangaMafika @sandileswana The failure on HIV was also not just sitting back and doing nothing, he was at the WTO negotiating for cheaper ARVs

@sandileswana No president nor presidency is infallible. Apart from his take on HIV/AIDS and failure to invest power generation, economic indicators under his tenure remain very impressive. At some point in 2003, the Rand was R5.99/$.

The period 2004 to 2008 under Mbeki was an economic failure. The claim that Thabo Mbeki's economic leadership from 2004 to 2008 was a failure is highly contested, as most standard macroeconomic indicators suggest this was actually the most successful economic period in South Africa's democratic history. Economic Successes (2004–2008) During this specific period, the South African economy experienced its longest sustained period of growth: GDP Growth: The economy grew at an average of 4.1% to 4.2% annually, peaking at 5.6% in 2006. Debt & Fiscal Stability: National debt was reduced from roughly 48% to 22.9% of GDP by 2008. In 2006/07, South Africa recorded its first-ever budget surplus. Employment: Contrary to "jobless growth" claims, approximately 3.1 million jobs were added between 2003 and 2008. The official unemployment rate dropped from a peak of roughly 30% to 21.9% by 2008. Middle Class Expansion: This period saw the rapid growth of the black middle class and improved living standards for many. Arguments for "Failure" Those who view this period as a failure often focus on structural and social issues rather than macroeconomic data: Inequality: Despite growth, income inequality widened, with the Gini Coefficient rising from 0.64 in 1995 to 0.69 by 2005. Infrastructure Neglect: The government was criticised for failing to invest in power generation, which directly led to the start of the load shedding crisis in late 2007. HIV/AIDS Policy: Mbeki's controversial stance on HIV/AIDS led to an estimated 330,000 excess deaths, which had devastating long-term social and economic impacts. Neoliberal Criticism: Left-wing allies like COSATU argued his "GEAR" (Growth, Employment, and Redistribution) policy prioritised market stability over direct poverty relief and transformation. While his presidency was marked by severe failures in health and energy planning, the 2004–2008 period is statistically defined by the country's highest growth, lowest debt, and most significant job creation. Is there merit to Mbeki nostalgia? - The Mail & Guardian The Mail & Guardian Former president Thabo Mbeki says people's living ... Facebook·eNCAnews 1:39 Growth, Debt, Jobs—Who Really Served the People Under Mbeki ( ... Facebook·Mzwanele Manyi and debaters Show all Ask anything AI Mode response is readyAsk about

@simphiwetwala53 @CyrilRamaphosa Your eyes then?

@Andy35230701 @CyrilRamaphosa If you can't see the difference it's not my fault

To be honest Zuma was the better president than @CyrilRamaphosa Yes, Zuma brought Guptas...but the economically standard of living was much more affordable than what we have during @CyrilRamaphosa tenure 😭😭😭

@jamesonen Thr slave trade, has long been testament to that

The Pan Africanist delusion is over lol. I'm not celebrating the animosity they have for others, but rather celebrating the fact that people's eyes are now open to the fact that thinking of Africa as a monolith is over. We are not one people, have never been, and will never be.

@gedeyhaben I think those who are uncivilized might be those that cause the displacement of millions their fellow citizens. One might argue that is barbarism.

Xenophobia is sign of barbarism!ppl who aren’t civilised will always display such heinous acts of aggression!Stop it now, immigrants bring knowledge & economy to your country

@akanyangm DJ Fresh, Shona Ferguson, etc. Y'all just wanna start something for no apparent reason

David Tlale, a South African, got a gig in Botswana. If Motswana had got same in SA, y’all would be spewing xenophobic hate on SM right now.

@ToyaDelazy I don't think anyone disagrees with you that he is indeed paid. It is because of our history with the IFP that we know, he is definitely paid. Mlaza, if he was alive, might have written a book about him and perhaps titled it "The patriot, with the double agenda".

I wrote about this - but when a women speaks in South Africa the insults fall like hail coupled with the fact I’m buthelezi, and and and and and - I am never engaged at my capacity - attackers are always hiding behind something or some lie you read on the internet sponsored by some group trying to cover the truth or the blind followers… watch this space

@Afri_core Well of you a terrorist organization, that needs money, it becomes very easy to fund a few spaza shops and get yourself a share of a R1billion rand industry.

I refuse to believe that the domination of foreign spaza shops by Somalis, Ethiopians & Pakistanis is purely coincidental or the result of hard work. Money is not a key driver of this situation; there could be coordination by foreign intel. It's too coordinated to ignore

@tlangimich The party must purge. Please call for a consultative conference before the election conference. The time is ripe for another Hani memorandum type outburst

The ANC, my organisation which we love deeply and that which has shaped us, must take decisive action against corruption and its compromised leaders proven to be involved in malfeasance!

@DumaGqubule His reasoning is funny, it operates on the assumption that all South Africans commit crimes, when in truth it's about 5%. Crime ,we say, is more common for those who cannot access government assistance, work and study opportunities, this might then explainthe higher numbers .

Farai Muvuti said on Dr Shola podcast "There is no way that 60% of crime can be committed by 4.5% of the pop. It is a mathematical anomaly. It is impossible. If you have not done maths go back to school and then make your case." Xenophobes are the most brainless people in SA

@ndues_boy Separation of powers, the president doesn't prosecutor or hand out judicial sentences. If your friend is guilty he'll get his just desserts

Im Zim its being reported as a private visit Why is he socialising with chivayo? A man under investigation by the South African gov?

@NotVanVeen @MainlandAfrica It really was a horrible 9 years. A presidency dedicated to the destruction of state institutions and the accumulation of ill-gotten wealth. Real businesses suffered needlessly and it had an impact of not only job creation but economic growth

@Andy35230701 @MainlandAfrica Saying that my former company still sits on 8 million unrefunded VAT refunds from Moyane. While the Guptas got VAT refunds they were never entitled to. It’s enraging.

Zuma didn't bring Guptas. Mandela and Mbeki did.

@NotVanVeen @MainlandAfrica All of them including the then SARS commission. This is why all the JZ love annoys me. The man was in power solely to enrich the guptas and his family

@Andy35230701 @MainlandAfrica Well, him, Singh and Koko.

@daddyhope Cyril had asked your president to abondon his bid for 2030, and had advised him to go before he is pushed. He has told him to give up power willingly as a coup would be disastrous. He has also discouraged the coup plotters and reminded them the SADC doesn't support coups

@NotVanVeen @MainlandAfrica Yha, this is my issue with JZ, Molefe was clearly brought in with a mandate to secure the mine for the Guptas and no one else. This is a mine that could've been owned by a community, like the Royal Bafokeng mines, but they decided to give it to the Guptas to scrap for parts

@Andy35230701 @MainlandAfrica Just search Phembani And you get to the interesting sections. ocpo.treasury.gov.za/Publications/F…

@NotVanVeen @MainlandAfrica I get this, my only issue was that once glencore couldn't operate the mine profitablely and had placed it in business rescue, it should've been expropriated to the benefit of the state. The evergreen contracts longer served their purpose i rethink was needed

@Andy35230701 @MainlandAfrica But the export market totally shifted in the 2000s as the west imported lower and lower coal and Asia more and more. At the extent that now the west only imports 4% of SA’s coal and Asia 86%. Guess the problem? Asia wants RB3.

@DeeRolaz He was also leading the charge at the WTO to reduce the cost of ARVs

Now mention the other thing